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OffTheBench said:
True. Weirdly I can reel off a fair few of their 90s players from memory: Warhurst, Hirst, Sinton, Sheridan, Palmer. They had Waddle around then too.
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I wished we'd brought Waddle back when Wednesday signed him. His legs had gone a bit but he was still quality on the ball. He won the football writer's Player of the Year award in his first season with them and he would have been great for us.
 
Bournemouth certainly shouldn’t be allowed up. Their ground holds around 800 people and it’s all far too nice. Fratton Park however is pwopa tasty.

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Mrs Perryman said:
I'd say Sheff Wed, as they were the opposition for my first match. I'd also include Bolton Wanderers.
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Bolton's an interesting one. They do feel like a Premier League club I agree, but I checked and apart from that 2000s era 11 year stretch, they've barely been in the top flight for any length of time, just the odd season here or there.
Shockingly they were in League 2 the season before last, I had no idea.
 
Oldham Athletic were one of the founding Premier League teams and they were relegated from the football league this season. I don't like the way the Oldham fans turned every home game into a protest against their chairman instead of getting behind their team but there will always be a part of me that associates Oldham with the early days of the Premier League.

Anyone remember the 93/94 Relegation Playoff? I think Liverpool were complaining the other night about the pitch before their CL defeat in Paris. They need to spend some time on a real pitch:
 
Preston North End - just for the anyone who's 100 years old. The original glory team...

Talking of, founding members of the original football league in 1888:

Accrington
Aston Villa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

Tottenham Hotspur joined in 1892.
 
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Kid Chameleon said:
Oldham Athletic were one of the founding Premier League teams and they were relegated from the football league this season. I don't like the way the Oldham fans turned every home game into a protest against their chairman instead of getting behind their team but there will always be a part of me that associates Oldham with the early days of the Premier League.

Anyone remember the 93/94 Relegation Playoff? I think Liverpool were complaining the other night about the pitch before their CL defeat in Paris. They need to spend some time on a real pitch:
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Luton were there or there abouts around that period. Possibly relegated a year or two before it became the Prem.

Oldham and Coventry were two I knew as top flight teams.
 
OffTheBench said:
With Leeds , Villa and now Forest back in the PL, it's feeling a bit like old times again, with most of the big clubs involved. Obviously what you consider a proper PL team varies by your age.

For me this is what the PL "should" include:

Tottenham
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Liverpool
Leeds United
Leicester City
Man Utd
Man City
Middlesbrough
Newcastle United
Nottingham Forest
Sheffield Wednesday
Southampton
Sunderland
West Ham
Wolves
Woolwich

Relegated last season:
Derby County
Norwich City
West Brom

Nearly included: Wimbledon, Sheff Utd.

Which teams would you include?
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I'd get rid of Middlesbrough for Ipswich. Used to love going there.
 
By number of seasons in the top flight it's
1EVERTON120
2ASTON VILLA109
3LIVERPOOL108
4Woolwich106
5MANCHESTER UNITED98
6MANCHESTER CITY94
7NEWCASTLE UNITED91
8TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR88
9CHELSEA88
10SUNDERLAND86
11WEST BROMWICH ALBION82
12BOLTON WANDERERS73
13BLACKBURN ROVERS72
14WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS68
15SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY66
16WEST HAM UNITED65
17DERBY COUNTY65
18SHEFFIELD UNITED62
19STOKE CITY62
20MIDDLESBROUGH61

Seem's overall reasonable. I'd drop Sunderland as I never really rated them and their peak was probably when George IV. Bolton, Blackburn, Stoke, and Boro can likewise go.

I'd substitute them for
Spurs
Woolwich
Chelsea
West Ham
Liverpool
Everton
Man City
Man Utd.
Aston Villa
Wolves
West Brom
Newcastle
Leeds
Sheffield Wed.
Sheffield Utd.
Forest
Derby
Ipswich
Leicester
Southampton

Soton are there for being more present post-war and Ipswich for being iconic of the 80's for me
 
OffTheBench said:
With Leeds , Villa and now Forest back in the PL, it's feeling a bit like old times again, with most of the big clubs involved. Obviously what you consider a proper PL team varies by your age.

For me this is what the PL "should" include:

Tottenham
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Liverpool
Leeds United
Leicester City
Man Utd
Man City
Middlesbrough
Newcastle United
Nottingham Forest
Sheffield Wednesday
Southampton
Sunderland
West Ham
Wolves
Woolwich

Relegated last season:
Derby County
Norwich City
West Brom

Nearly included: Wimbledon, Sheff Utd.

Which teams would you include?
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Not for me, you could also include yo-yo teams like West Ham, Crystal Palace in the No's from me too.
 
KaneIsAble said:
With all the fuss about Nottingham Forest, I'm realising how much older the average poster on this forum is than me.

I've never seen them in the PL even as a child, though back then I was only really interested in playing football, not watching.

For me Nottingham Forest big club thing passed me by. The actual Nottingham forest in my mind is just another championship club like Birmingham, Milwall etc. I knew nothing about them before I started frequenting football forums.

I associate Stoke with the PL more than them.
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They won back-to-back European Cups in 1979 and 1980 IIRC.

That's like winning the Champions league twice these days back to back etc..
 
McCOYS said:
They won back-to-back European Cups in 1979 and 1980 IIRC.

That's like winning the Champions league twice these days back to back etc..
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sure, but they went down to league one soon after right?

I've never met one of their fans, and until a few years ago they never came up except in a meme sort of way.

I think Huddersfield have as many league titles as us but no one calls them big.
 
KaneIsAble said:
sure, but they went down to league one soon after right?

I've never met one of their fans, and until a few years ago they never came up except in a meme sort of way.

I think Huddersfield have as many league titles as us but no one calls them big.
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Yeah they slipped away after that, they came back up in the 1990s when Stan Collymore played for them. I think they were an upper mid table team then. after they sold him to Liverpool I don't think they were much heard of in the Premier League again until this coming next season.
 
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Eli said:
When I was a young-un and got into the football the earliest memories were of the panini sticker books as was highlighted in the Forrest thread foil badge! I was non the wiser who was the best/biggest the teams what you’ve posted are near correct but Chelsea were Division 2 , West Ham again was no where near division 1 in my head Bolton should be there + Bristol City but this based only on my childhood.
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First “shinny” sticker we got was the forest badge. Pannini 88. They had the second division (1/2 a badge and a team photo sticker) also had Scottish premier league too
 
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