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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Lyon have openly stated they need to offload players as they have not qualified for CL. They've also said they need an extra midfielder.

We have consistently overpaid buying players from Lyon and other French clubs (its way less competitive than PL and players have not been able to step up) so if we do move for him I hope we aren't fool enough to pay Lyon asking price. An offer of £35m max and if they don't accept we walk away is fine by me.
Paquetá is a pretty mediocre player, total failure at Milan, hope he stays away.
 
Tottenham could sign Lyon midfielder Lucas Paqueta because they can offer him Champions League, according to journalist Jacque Talbot.

Antonio Conte is on the verge of securing his sixth summer arrival in right wing-back Djed Spence, but the Spurs boss is still hoping to complete further business, with the Brazilian on his list.

What’s the latest news involving Paqueta?
According to Football.London, sporting director Fabio Paratici ‘holds an interest’ in the 24-year-old, whose outstanding form since joining Lyon two years ago has allowed him to win 33 caps for Brazil.

GiveMeSport Transfer Verdict
But competition is stiff for Paqueta’s signature, with Woolwich and Newcastle both in the race for the creative midfielder.

Paqueta has caught the eye following two impressive seasons in France, but after Lyon failed to qualify for the Champions League, he has expressed his desire to leave the club.

As per Ben Jacobs, Lyon have accepted that Paqueta wants to seek pastures new and won’t stand in the way of his wishes, providing someone gets close to meeting their £55m (€65m) asking price.

And Talbot reckons Spurs being back in Europe’s elite competition could see them edge out their north London rivals, especially after missing out on Gabriel Jesus earlier this summer.

What did Talbot say about Paqueta?
He told GIVEMESPORT: “They missed out on Jesus, who went to Woolwich, so there’s that aspect of it as well. I think Spurs is very possible for Paqueta, especially because they’re in the Champions League as well, so that’s a very, very possible one.”

How did Paqueta perform last season?
Despite Lyon enduring their worst Ligue 1 campaign for more than 25 years after they finished eighth and missed out on qualifying for Europe, the midfielder enjoyed a fine season on a personal level.

Beyond Tete, who joined in January and therefore only started seven games, Paqueta was the club’s best performer, according to WhoScored.

He managed nine top-flight goals, bettered only by Moussa Dembele and Karl Toko-Ekambi, which was an impressive return for an attacking midfielder, while no one else in the Lyon squad managed more than his six assists.

Paqueta was also in the top six players for most shots, key passes and dribbles per game, proving that he’s a classy operator when it comes to final third output.

He had a similar record in his first season in France, scoring nine goals and laying on a further six assists, which means he’s already shown he can consistently perform at the top level over a long period of time.
50 million for Maddison or 65 for this guy? You decide.
 
50 million for Maddison or 65 for this guy? You decide.
Spot on, I don’t trust Paqueta or really any Lyon players, and especially not at that price.

He’s not even that young, turns 25 in a month. Basically Maddison’s age.

Paqueta has 21 goals and 16 assists in all competitions in his four years in Europe. Maddison had 18 goals and 12 assists just last year.
 
Ok disagreed again, up to you don't grow up ↓.
:dembelefingers:

And yet on the same page, I have agrees to people I agreed with.

That’s how the fucking system works. So stop crying.

It’s not as if I’ve gone on a spree on your shit posts, is it.

Like I said, post something sensible and I’ll agree with it.

But stop taking things off topic. Admin Admin have a word with this fucking nut case please, bored of seeing this guy take thread after thread off topic.

Sorry for tagging you but I’m not putting up with this guys whinging behaviour anymore.

you’re going to tell me to use the ignore function and shut up, aren’t you 😬
 
2 years left on his contract. Same as Kalvin Philips who just went for £45m and a regular England international. Given Maddisons creativity and goals reckon it might be £55m.
Maddison for £55m would not be a bad deal tbh. I'd expect more like £70m given he's still relatively young, homegrown, and the selling club being Leicester.
 
Paquetá is a pretty mediocre player, total failure at Milan, hope he stays away.
Flopped at Milan, yes but has been absolutely quality for the Brazilian National Team which is arguably, the most dominant in world football today.

I watch every Brazil game and so, this is my opinion and not something I have just read. He has basically made it impossible for Tite to drop him from the starting 11.

Never seen him play for Lyon. However, from what I read he has looked very good there and has good stats to back it.

A player can flop somewhere and then be a success elsewhere. See Kulusevski, for example.
 
Maddison for £55m would not be a bad deal tbh. I'd expect more like £70m given he's still relatively young, homegrown, and the selling club being Leicester.
Something weird is happening at Leicester. It seems like they are in an unstable situation. Vardy being injured last season is not helping them and his wife has made him unpopular with his teammates. There is also rumours of discontent from their owners if they should be bankrolling the club as much in the future.
 
Flopped at Milan, yes but has been absolutely quality for the Brazilian National Team which is arguably, the most dominant in world football today.

I watch every Brazil game and so, this is my opinion and not something I have just read. He has basically made it impossible for Tite to drop him from the starting 11.

Never seen him play for Lyon. However, from what I read he has looked very good there and has good stats to back it.

A player can flop somewhere and then be a success elsewhere. See Kulusevski, for example.

National team football usually a level below PL, and we've learned from Ndombele, N'Jie, Nkoudou the standard required at Lyon and French league is way less in terms of intensity and is physically much more demanding.

Per JDK JDK Paqueta has 21 goals and 16 assists in all competitions in his four years in Europe. which is what you might expect from a 21 year old very early in his career, not a 25 year old. Put those sort of stats beside Kulusevski (who you mentioned as a comparison) in 6 months getting 5 goals and 8 assists (ie 10 goals and 16 assists in a full year in PL , much tougher league than French league ) and its clear Paqueta has to play out of his skin to compete.

Certainly not a £50m player, more a £30m player
 
It’s not as if I’ve gone on a spree on your shit posts, is it.

But stop taking things off topic. Admin Admin have a word with this fucking nut case please, bored of seeing this guy take thread after thread off topic.
you’re going to tell me to use the ignore function and shut up, aren’t you 😬
It’s like calling daddy for help 😂
 
National team football usually a level below PL, and we've learned from Ndombele, N'Jie, Nkoudou the standard required at Lyon and French league is way less in terms of intensity and is physically much more demanding.

This is nonsense. N'Jie and Nkoudou didn't fail because of a lack of physicality or intensity, they just weren't good enough for a team at the top end of the PL, they weren't good enough for teams at the top of Ligue 1 either. They were young punts that didn't pan out like Clarke or Rodon.

By your logic we've learned from Kante that that Ligue1 is vastly superior to the PL because he never managed to win Ligue1 but pissed the PL twice. He's also able to play with more intensity and physicality than most PL players.

Did we learn from signing people like Sissoko and Doherty from the PL that the PL is shit?

There are plenty of players from Ligue1 (and other leagues) who have been great allover Europe, including in (and winning) the PL.

National team football usually a level below PL, and we've learned from Ndombele, N'Jie, Nkoudou the standard required at Lyon and French league is way less in terms of intensity and is physically much more demanding.

Per JDK JDK Paqueta has 21 goals and 16 assists in all competitions in his four years in Europe. which is what you might expect from a 21 year old very early in his career, not a 25 year old. Put those sort of stats beside Kulusevski (who you mentioned as a comparison) in 6 months getting 5 goals and 8 assists (ie 10 goals and 16 assists in a full year in PL , much tougher league than French league ) and its clear Paqueta has to play out of his skin to compete.

Certainly not a £50m player, more a £30m player

Kulesevski was failing at Juve in Serie A, yet found it piss easy to score and assist in the PL. What have we learned from this, that Serie A is tougher than the PL?


Your theory is nonsense. It's just about finding the right players. Wherever you are looking, and Ligue 1 doesn't lack physicality or intensity - it just lacks finesse, because it all gets exported pretty quickly to the rest of Europe.

 
This is nonsense. N'Jie and Nkoudou didn't fail because of a lack of physicality or intensity, they just weren't good enough for a team at the top end of the PL, they weren't good enough for teams at the top of Ligue 1 either. They were young punts that didn't pan out like Clarke or Rodon.

By your logic we've learned from Kante that that Ligue1 is vastly superior to the PL because he never managed to win Ligue1 but pissed the PL twice. He's also able to play with more intensity and physicality than most PL players.

Did we learn from signing people like Sissoko and Doherty from the PL that the PL is shit?

There are plenty of players from Ligue1 (and other leagues) who have been great allover Europe, including in (and winning) the PL.



Kulesevski was failing at Juve in Serie A, yet found it piss easy to score and assist in the PL. What have we learned from this, that Serie A is tougher than the PL?


Your theory is nonsense. It's just about finding the right players. Wherever you are looking, and Ligue 1 doesn't lack physicality or intensity - it just lacks finesse, because it all gets exported pretty quickly to the rest of Europe.

You think Grealish is no good.
One Kante does not cancel out a dozen N guys.
And Kulu and Bentacur came from Italy.
 
National team football usually a level below PL, and we've learned from Ndombele, N'Jie, Nkoudou the standard required at Lyon and French league is way less in terms of intensity and is physically much more demanding.

Per JDK JDK Paqueta has 21 goals and 16 assists in all competitions in his four years in Europe. which is what you might expect from a 21 year old very early in his career, not a 25 year old. Put those sort of stats beside Kulusevski (who you mentioned as a comparison) in 6 months getting 5 goals and 8 assists (ie 10 goals and 16 assists in a full year in PL , much tougher league than French league ) and its clear Paqueta has to play out of his skin to compete.

Certainly not a £50m player, more a £30m player
Yeah and Kulusevski had 10 goals and 8 assists as a 19 year old in Serie A at Parma.

Paqueta looks a decent player, his defensive and pressing numbers are excellent too. But I don’t see enough output at his age to pay the Jean-Michel Aulas tax to get him out of Lyon.

Also you watch his clips and it’s a bunch of bullshit flicks, backheels, rainbows, and flair shit that just doesn’t work in the premier league or any decent competition.
 
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