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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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bus-conductor said:
This is nonsense. N'Jie and Nkoudou didn't fail because of a lack of physicality or intensity, they just weren't good enough for a team at the top end of the PL, they weren't good enough for teams at the top of Ligue 1 either. They were young punts that didn't pan out like Clarke or Rodon.

By your logic we've learned from Kante that that Ligue1 is vastly superior to the PL because he never managed to win Ligue1 but pissed the PL twice. He's also able to play with more intensity and physicality than most PL players.

Did we learn from signing people like Sissoko and Doherty from the PL that the PL is shit?

There are plenty of players from Ligue1 (and other leagues) who have been great allover Europe, including in (and winning) the PL.



Kulesevski was failing at Juve in Serie A, yet found it piss easy to score and assist in the PL. What have we learned from this, that Serie A is tougher than the PL?


Your theory is nonsense. It's just about finding the right players. Wherever you are looking, and Ligue 1 doesn't lack physicality or intensity - it just lacks finesse, because it all gets exported pretty quickly to the rest of Europe.

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Pochettino Details Why Ligue 1 is 'More Physical' Than the Premier League - PSG Talk

PSG manager Mauricio Pochettino made one notable comparison between Ligue 1 and England's top flight in the Premier League.
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Please stop it BC this common sense is killing me :moursad:
 
Kaz Hirai said:
Drogba, essien, Hugo, hazard, fabinho, and Bernardo Silva were also signed direct from ligue 1 if I recall . Probably a bunch of other quality players im forgetting too .
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I agree with your and bus conductor's point in general, but your argument isn't any more robust either.

Clubs from better leagues buy players from worse leagues, players who go on to do incredibly well, but that doesn't change the fact the selling league is worse. The fact that Liverpool's best player came from Serie A and we got Son from Bundesliga doesn't make those leagues as good as the PL.

We're really buying the best players and players with the highest potential in these leagues. The likes of Silva, Fabinho are the best, and if they weren't they'd find themselves back in Europe pretty soon. When we buy Son, Fabinho, that necessarily diminishes the quality of the selling league. Just as Courtois, Ronaldo, Bale leaving the PL for Real hurt the overall quality of the PL.

If a league is worse than another, then it makes sense to think that the probability of the player being bought might struggle more so than if the transfer was the other way round. Not that there can never standout singings from those leagues.
 
Reports here and in Spain suggests we might be in for him... Given today's prices, looks to be reasonable value.. thoughts guys?

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Tottenham 'willing to pay £17million for Depay'

The Catalan giants have told Depay to find himself a new club this summer after the club bolstered their attack with the signing of Bayern Munich's Robert Lewandowski.
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El Tottenham, dispuesto a pagar 17 millones por Memphis

El club inglés ha contactado ya con el entorno del futbolista para hablar
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superspurs61 said:
Reports here and in Spain suggests we might be in for him... Given today's prices, looks to be reasonable value.. thoughts guys?

www.dailymail.co.uk

Tottenham 'willing to pay £17million for Depay'

The Catalan giants have told Depay to find himself a new club this summer after the club bolstered their attack with the signing of Bayern Munich's Robert Lewandowski.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

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El Tottenham, dispuesto a pagar 17 millones por Memphis

El club inglés ha contactado ya con el entorno del futbolista para hablar
www.sport.es www.sport.es
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I can’t remember him doing anything at Utd except sit out on the wing and fall over a lot.
 
Zomb said:
Formation is pretty irrelevant…. Just tell Kane to drop into the hole for half hour and it’s a 352. Don’t need that mop haired fuck to change tactics
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I don't share your obvious distain for Maddison, but I do agree regarding our current flexibility.

I can't understand why people think we need to sign a specific CAM to go 352 when any one of Kane, Son, Kulu or Richarlison is perfectly capable of dropping deep and doing it. Kane is actually better at it than almost any specific CAM alive today as well.
 
Spursidol said:
National team football usually a level below PL, and we've learned from Ndombele, N'Jie, Nkoudou the standard required at Lyon and French league is way less in terms of intensity and is physically much more demanding.

Per JDK JDK Paqueta has 21 goals and 16 assists in all competitions in his four years in Europe. which is what you might expect from a 21 year old very early in his career, not a 25 year old. Put those sort of stats beside Kulusevski (who you mentioned as a comparison) in 6 months getting 5 goals and 8 assists (ie 10 goals and 16 assists in a full year in PL , much tougher league than French league ) and its clear Paqueta has to play out of his skin to compete.

Certainly not a £50m player, more a £30m player
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Not disagreeing with any argument you made but the names cited would probably not start for Brazil and secondly, players have left France and have made a huge impact in the Premier League.

It's all relative.

See Bruno Guimaraes, Mahrez, Kante, Hazard, B Silva, Fabinho, T Silva, and etc.

The reason N'dombele flopped is a lack of wanting to succeed/lack of effort because he is certainly good enough when he wants. There was a reason we were unanimously buzzing at his signing, regardless of what transpired after.

N'jie and Nkoudou on the other hand, have never ever been discussed or seen in the same light as a Paquetá at any point in their careers. In my opinion, they were players that many didn't know of (I'd argue if we weren't linked to them then 95% of people on here had no idea who they were) and we took a punt on them.

I could obviously be wrong about Paquetá, but I think he would succeed here and there are many more things you should consider about him.
 
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Matt1882 said:
I don't share your obvious distain for Maddison, but I do agree regarding our current flexibility.

I can't understand why people think we need to sign a specific CAM to go 352 when any one of Kane, Son, Kulu or Richarlison is perfectly capable of dropping deep and doing it. Kane is actually better at it than almost any specific CAM alive today as well.
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You want us to start a game 3-5-2 with one of Kane, Son, Kulu or Richarlison dropping deep and starting in the 5?????


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Why not just sign an ACM ???
 
Matt1882 said:
I don't share your obvious distain for Maddison, but I do agree regarding our current flexibility.

I can't understand why people think we need to sign a specific CAM to go 352 when any one of Kane, Son, Kulu or Richarlison is perfectly capable of dropping deep and doing it. Kane is actually better at it than almost any specific CAM alive today as well.
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Square pegs round holes. Maddison is a proper AM, he is elite in that role, I don’t think Richarlison would be elite becoming an AM.
 
RomanzoCriminale said:
You want us to start a game 3-5-2 with one of Kane, Son, Kulu or Richarlison dropping deep and starting in the 5?????


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Why not just sign an ACM ???
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Exactly.

This nonsense about dropping Kane deep…Conte clearly wants him to play closer to the goal, so no he won’t be dropping deep.

we shouldn’t be fitting square pegs into round holes ffs.

Just buy a ACM. End of!
 
cretinousgoat said:
Exactly.

This nonsense about dropping Kane deep…Conte clearly wants him to play closer to the goal, so no he won’t be dropping deep.

we shouldn’t be fitting square pegs into round holes ffs.

Just buy a ACM. End of!
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He has played AM and CM for Leicester as well as the false winger position on the left. So he could in theory play 343 or 352 and he would offer a skill set we don’t have. Doesn’t have to be Maddison but he just seems like the obvious choice. He could be ideal in playing against teams that want to sit deep against us where we need a lock picker.
 
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