World Cup 2022

[Boltonspur]

I was about to agree that Messi was the GOAT until I saw that freak show after. All he needed was a crown of thorns and a cross to nail himself to.
How does it change anything you ask? It doesn’t. He just looked like a knobber doimg Panto shit when he could have just taken his awards & avoided all that ceremonial cack.

 

[bus-conductor]

It's true though, everything I just wrote.

Our football is for foriegners now, us fans that actually go to games are just a necessary backdrop and there to add some noise and colour.

I'm meant to give a fuck about Romero or Hugo or Perisic? Fuck all of them, mercenary cunts.

Need to start imposing fines on clubs that play too many foreigners, maybe points deductions as well. Force them to develop and play English talent otherwise nothing will ever change.

Firstly what you are saying is silly bollocks.

Secondly, I couldn't give a fuck about England (or Scotland) being better at the cost of Spurs (or league football) being shitter. International football is fucking fluff that is only worth a wank for a couple of weeks every two years. Spurs and league football is what I care about every week, every year.

If English kids aren't good enough to get games at their clubs, then they should do what the French, Argentinians, Brazilians, Croatians, Portuguese, Africans, Asians do, and go and play in a foreign league, broaden their minds and learn their trade. Thew best and toughest will emerge.

All the major European leagues have foreign owners, coaches and players. And they have all won international trophies. England have never been better than they are now - thanks to people like Foden, Kane, Bellingham being coached and playing with better quality foreign players, which completely disproves your bollocks theory.

And it's not just what you said was bollocks, but the way you said it. And you fucking know it. It was just a xenophobic rant trying to blame "Foreigners" because England didn't win the WC. Again.

 

[DJ Check Complete]

If France had won, would the Emir of Qatar have put that lovely piece of lingerie on Lloris?

No, that was total Bisht.

 

[Kosher Kid]

I was about to agree that Messi was the GOAT until I saw that freak show after. All he needed was a crown of thorns and a cross to nail himself to.
How does it change anything you ask? It doesn’t. He just looked like a knobber doimg Panto shit when he could have just taken his awards & avoided all that ceremonial cack.

It was surreal.

When the fireworks went off and the camera angle switched to the outside of the stadium I couldn't help thinking about all the people up and down the country who were watching the extravagance and pointless decadence but can't afford to heat their homes, pay their utility bills, buy groceries or Christmas presents.

It was the World Cup final but this was utter bullshit and totally unnecessary.

Messi is the greatest but they made him look a right cunt.

 

[Deuterz]

All the major European leagues have foreign owners, coaches and players. And they have all won international trophies. England have never been better than they are now - thanks to people like Foden, Kane, Bellingham being coached and playing with better quality foreign players, which completely disproves your bollocks theory.

Uh England have won a world cup and by all accounts were at least as good in 1996 so the idea the influx of foreign players is why they're doing well now is dodgy to say the last. In fact the Premier League having the highest % of foreign players of any major league (66%!) has coincided with a very unsuccessful era for England internationally.

Although I will say I don't think it's anywhere near the biggest factor. We had a talent goldmine in 2006 for example, we just didn't utilise it very well.

 

[bus-conductor]

Uh England have won a world cup and by all accounts were at least as good in 1996 so the idea the influx of foreign players is why they're doing well now is dodgy to say the last. In fact the Premier League having the highest % of foreign players of any major league (66%!) has coincided with a very unsuccessful era for England internationally.

Although I will say I don't think it's anywhere near the biggest factor. We had a talent goldmine in 2006 for example, we just didn't utilise it very well.

Let's ignore 1966. It was long before football truly modernised and more nations became competitive. It was in England and had the help of a very dubious bit of linesmanning.

There have been odd phases when England have had decent teams, as you'd expect for a major European nation, but this is the most consistent run of tournaments I can remember. A semi, a final and then a very close qtr, knocked out by the the most talented team after dominating them for long spells.

Clearly having 66% of foreign players isn't hurting England. And England only have 2% more than Italy who won the last Euro - against England. So the two nations with the highest percentage of foreigners finished 1st and 2nd in the last Euros. Germany have consistently had the second highest over the last few decades and they have won shitloads.

Argentina don't have a better squad than England, not do Tunisia. You don't have to have the best squad to win a tournament - you need a good squad and to be well coached.

Many of the players aren't staying in their own country to develop, they are going to European countries at young ages. That's what more English players should do.

And bottom line, even there was evidence that capping imports worked for international football (there isn't) club football is far more important, generates the players, m pays them, generates all the income, provides the majority of sport and entertainment, why should it suffer for international football.

 

[Deuterz]

Let's ignore 1966. It was long before football truly modernised and more nations became competitive. It was in England and had the help of a very dubious bit of linesmanning.

There have been odd phases when England have had decent teams, as you'd expect for a major European nation, but this is the most consistent run of tournaments I can remember. A semi, a final and then a very close qtr, knocked out by the the most talented team after dominating them for long spells.

Clearly having 66% of foreign players isn't hurting England. And England only have 2% more than Italy who won the last Euro - against England. So the two nations with the highest percentage of foreigners finished 1st and 2nd in the last Euros. Germany have consistently had the second highest over the last few decades and they have won shitloads.

Argentina don't have a better squad than England, not do Tunisia. You don't have to have the best squad to win a tournament - you need a good squad and to be well coached.

Many of the players aren't staying in their own country to develop, they are going to European countries at young ages. That's what more English players should do.

And bottom line, even there was evidence that capping imports worked for international football (there isn't) club football is far more important, generates the players, m pays them, generates all the income, provides the majority of sport and entertainment, why should it suffer for international football.

It's the most consistent run because there's a decent setup behind the team .. it's not the best group of players we've had. We had a better group in 2006.

How do you know, where's the comparison point? Pre influx of foreign players were England worse? Italy have also struggled in recent years - not qualifying for numerous world cups - and I'd wager their league hitting that % of foreign players is a relatively recent thing. Yes they won the Euros on penalties vs England but they've not exactly been thriving talent creation wise, have they? Germany has the benefit of being the major W European nation with the biggest population.

Argentina don't ... they have Messi.

Depends. Maybe to someone not English. Personally I'd prefer to have a worse league but a few more stars on the English shirt. International football is far more romantic & far more beautiful than the mercenary shitfest that is club football. I'm not remotely looking forward to it returning, it's predictable and bought & paid for.

 

[To Dare Is To Do.]

Team of the tournament:

Martinez
Hakimi Romero Varane Mazrouai
MacAllister Tchouameni Griezzman
Messi Richarlison Mbappe

 

[Deuterz]

Team of the tournament:

Martinez
Hakimi Romero Varane Mazrouai
MacAllister Tchouameni Griezzman
Messi Richarlison Mbappe

Richarlison out for Giroud or Alvarez and I think I'd pretty much go along with that .. honourable mention to Morocco's goalkeeper and Bellingham who I think would have been nailed on if England had got past France.

 

[Eli]

 

[daveyboy88]

When the fucking gown for Messi went on I was in disbelief.

that was fucking embarrassing. ruined the image for him actually lifting it.

 

[SpiderSpurs]

 

[Ionman34]

The oscars ceremony at the end was nauseating.

When the fucking gown for Messi went on I was in disbelief.

I was waiting for a crown and a thrown.

Listening to Jenas and Rio Ferdinand suggesting we were 'blessed' to have witnessed the spectacle just added to the puke factor.

It was a decent game, and there were other decent games during the tournament, but it was all wrong to play this tournament in November and December during the season.

Bang on with everything except the first sentence of your last paragraph. That game went so far beyond "decent" you can't see it over the horizon.

Football is first and foremost about entertainment. The Argentinians, French and the rest of the World went through every emotion in that game from excitement, to disbelief, to euphoria, to crushing disappointment. It had everything, with both teams going toe to toe to win the game.

The 3rd place playoff offered up a decent and enjoyable game, this one was a sensory overload.

 

[Kosher Kid]

Bang on with everything except the first sentence of your last paragraph. That game went so far beyond "decent" you can't see it over the horizon.

Football is first and foremost about entertainment. The Argentinians, French and the rest of the World went through every emotion in that game from excitement, to disbelief, to euphoria, to crushing disappointment. It had everything, with both teams going toe to toe to win the game.

The 3rd place playoff offered up a decent and enjoyable game, this one was a sensory overload.

I thought it was a bit predictable until the first French penalty late on.

Argentina were cruising with a cigar on.

France were dreadful. They got lucky.

That is football though so I agree it was a memorable final.

 

[Ionman34]

I thought it was a bit predictable until the first French penalty late on.

Argentina were cruising with a cigar on.

France were dreadful. They got lucky.

That is football though so I agree it was a memorable final.

Indeed. It has the French in despair and the Argies euphoric. Just 10 minutes to go, of a game they were cruising, and the trophy was theirs. Then 2 frantic minutes flipped the whole thing on its head and for the next 40 minutes it was just breathtaking.

I was ambivalent about the whole thing before the game started, but found myself absolutely glued to the screen after France's first goal. It was end to end, but with quality at both ends, both attacking and defending. First the Lloris save from Messi, then the Martinez save that had me gobsmacked.
Both teams went for it then, just when you think Argentina have snatched it, the French rally again.

For me, it epitomised everything great about the beautiful game. Some lovely Football, some crunching tackles, 6 goals, drama, excitement, it had the lot. Maybe not for the full 120 minutes, but you could probably count on the fingers of one hand the games that have had that for 120 minutes, and still have fingers left over.

It might not be everyone's idea of a standout game, but for me it encapsulated everything that we as fans look for, and it was the final of the biggest sports tournament in the World.

 

[SpiderSpurs]

Saw this on FB....

DID YOU KNOW: Since 1982, there has always been at least one Inter Milan and one Bayern Munich player in FIFA World Cup final.

And the trend continues, Inter Milan's Lautaro Martinez & Bayern Munich's Upamecano, Pavard & Coman will play in the FIFA World Cup 2022 final.

️ 1982 World Cup Final- Bergomi Rummenigge

️ 1986 World Cup Final - Rummenigge Matthaus

️ 1990 World Cup Final - Matthaus Augenthaler

️ 1994 World Cup Final - Berti Jorginho

️ 1998 World Cup Final - Ronaldo Lizarazu

️ 2002 World Cup Final - Ronaldo Kahn

️ 2006 World Cup Final - Materazzi Sagnol

️ 2010 World Cup Final - Sneijder Robben

️ 2014 World Cup Final - Palacio Neuer

️ 2018 World Cup Final - Perisic Tolisso

️ 2022 World Cup Final - Lautaro Upamecano, Pavard & Coman

 

[Pathfinder]

Fears grow over Argentina fan who went topless at final as new clip emerges

FEARS grow over the Argentina fan who was escorted out of Lusail Stadium by officials after she got her kit off during the World Cup Final. The Argentinian fan was spotted on TV stripping off to ce…

www.thesun.co.uk

FEARS grow over the Argentina fan who was escorted out of Lusail Stadium by officials after she got her kit off during the World Cup Final.

The fan was spotted on TV stripping off to celebrate Argentina's dramatic win over France last night, however, still no more information has been released surrounding the incident.



Vision of the Argentina fan stripping off to celebrateCredit: Canalpais


An official spots the woman and from there she was escorted from the stadiumCredit: Canalpais

 

[Brian Fantana]

It's true though, everything I just wrote.

Our football is for foriegners now, us fans that actually go to games are just a necessary backdrop and there to add some noise and colour.

I'm meant to give a fuck about Romero or Hugo or Perisic? Fuck all of them, mercenary cunts.

Need to start imposing fines on clubs that play too many foreigners, maybe points deductions as well. Force them to develop and play English talent otherwise nothing will ever change.

I don’t agree with the rest of what you said but this is 100% correct. Match going fans are the last thought in football. From kick off times being changed to silly times to VAR and being last the find out what’s going on when it’s being used for something. If people don’t get that then I don’t believe they go to games

 

[Shadydan]

Fears grow over Argentina fan who went topless at final as new clip emerges

FEARS grow over the Argentina fan who was escorted out of Lusail Stadium by officials after she got her kit off during the World Cup Final. The Argentinian fan was spotted on TV stripping off to ce…

www.thesun.co.uk

FEARS grow over the Argentina fan who was escorted out of Lusail Stadium by officials after she got her kit off during the World Cup Final.

The fan was spotted on TV stripping off to celebrate Argentina's dramatic win over France last night, however, still no more information has been released surrounding the incident.



Vision of the Argentina fan stripping off to celebrateCredit: Canalpais


An official spots the woman and from there she was escorted from the stadiumCredit: Canalpais

 

[Kid Chameleon]

Saw this on FB....

DID YOU KNOW: Since 1982, there has always been at least one Inter Milan and one Bayern Munich player in FIFA World Cup final.

And the trend continues, Inter Milan's Lautaro Martinez & Bayern Munich's Upamecano, Pavard & Coman will play in the FIFA World Cup 2022 final.

️ 1982 World Cup Final- Bergomi Rummenigge

️ 1986 World Cup Final - Rummenigge Matthaus

️ 1990 World Cup Final - Matthaus Augenthaler

️ 1994 World Cup Final - Berti Jorginho

️ 1998 World Cup Final - Ronaldo Lizarazu

️ 2002 World Cup Final - Ronaldo Kahn

️ 2006 World Cup Final - Materazzi Sagnol

️ 2010 World Cup Final - Sneijder Robben

️ 2014 World Cup Final - Palacio Neuer

️ 2018 World Cup Final - Perisic Tolisso

️ 2022 World Cup Final - Lautaro Upamecano, Pavard & Coman

That is one crazy statistic.