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Ex-Spurs Player Gary 'the ears' Lineker is a prick - discuss

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Is Gary Lineker a massive fartfaced prick

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 29.1%
  • Super Yes

    Votes: 18 14.2%
  • Bigger yes than his ears

    Votes: 58 45.7%
  • No, I love the gooners

    Votes: 14 11.0%

  • Total voters
    127
Because lets say I don't want to watch any BBC I just want to watch Live football and occasional Live sports on Sky, I will go to the Pub to watch any sports live on the BBC, why should I have to pay for it?
well it's not a tax - it funds a public organisation, that supplies entertainment to the nation.

If you don't want it - you can opt out, I have a friend who has done it, and I can ask him for details if you would like me to. You just need to fill some paperwork in, I believe.
 
well it's not a tax - it funds a public organisation, that supplies entertainment to the nation.

If you don't want it - you can opt out, I have a friend who has done it, and I can ask him for details if you would like me to. You just need to fill some paperwork in, I believe.
You cant just Opt out from just the BBC though can you, if you dont pay the licence Fee you cant watch any Live TV what so ever (Legally)
 
Now ask your average lefty to define a bordered system, or got forbid, actually give you a figure.

Being called racist is like social death to them so you'll never hear them address that. They just deflect by inventing people who actively want zero immigration (less than 1 percent of the population to be charitable).
Most of them don't even understand the basic principles.
They don't understand the difference between an economic migrant and a genuine refugee.
They substitute logic for an entireley emotion driven argument. If idiots like Caroline Lucas had her way there would be millions flooding in.

You can't have a welfare state and an open door immigration policy. What do they think is going to happen?
Of course people in poor parts of the world want to come here for free healthcare, food, and a warm roof over their head.
All at taxpayer expense. There are no jobs for these people, most of them have no education and can't even speak English. We don't have the houses, capacity within the NHS or our schools or any other basic infrastructure to take them in.

But you dare make these most basic of observations and you get cunts like Lineker calling you a Nazi.

It's a joke how pathetic and childlike public discourse has become.
 
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Most of them don't even understand the basic principles.
They don't understand the difference between an economic migrant and a genuine refugee.
They substitute logic for an entireley emotion driven argument. If idiots like Caroline Lucas had her way there would be millions flooding in.

You can't have a welfare state and an open door immigration policy. What do they think is going to happen?

Who's suggesting an open door immigration policy? I've checked the Green Party's policies and I don't see that suggested anywhere. Maybe you have a better source? If so, can you provide it?


Of course people in poor parts of the world want to come here for free healthcare, food, and a warm roof over their head.

Of course, many are fleeing from warzones in regions of the world that were destabilised/ruined by Anglo-American military intervention. They come to the UK because they have ties to this country. Perhaps they have family here, or they speak English. But I'm really not sure how wanting all these things you've listed is a bad thing. Or do you honestly expect people living in a warzone, or the threat of religious persecution to just tolerate it?


All at taxpayer expense.

Nope. Research shows that migrants to the UK pay far more into the government's tax coffers than they receive in benefits.



There are no jobs for these people,

That's not true. According to Government figures, we currently have around 1.19million job vacancies in the UK.


most of them have no education and can't even speak English.

Source? Because once again, that's not true.

Most come to the UK specifically because they speak English and have ties to the country.

We don't have the houses, capacity within the NHS or our schools or any other basic infrastructure to take them in.

Crikey! You're going to have to share your sources for these figures because it seem we're in worse shape than we previously thought. According to the Government's own figures, we have taken in 190,000 people under various refugee schemes, and with our current population at around 67.8million, makes this around 0.28%. To put it another way, that's not even as many people as we lost to COVID.

If our country's infrastructure is in such bad a shape that it can't cope with an additional 0.28% of people, then this is a seriously damning indictment of 13 years of Tory rule. Just a suggestion, but maybe don't vote for them anymore if they're THAT incompetent.

But... I suspect your point was more hyperbole.

But you dare make these most basic of observations and you get cunts like Lineker calling you a Nazi.

You've not made any observations. You've just made a load of stuff up.

It's a joke how pathetic and childlike public discourse has become.

Yep, the right wing media do have a lot to answer for...
 
Most of them don't even understand the basic principles.
They don't understand the difference between an economic migrant and a genuine refugee.
They substitute logic for an entireley emotion driven argument. If idiots like Caroline Lucas had her way there would be millions flooding in.

You can't have a welfare state and an open door immigration policy. What do they think is going to happen?
Of course people in poor parts of the world want to come here for free healthcare, food, and a warm roof over their head.
All at taxpayer expense. There are no jobs for these people, most of them have no education and can't even speak English. We don't have the houses, capacity within the NHS or our schools or any other basic infrastructure to take them in.

But you dare make these most basic of observations and you get cunts like Lineker calling you a Nazi.

It's a joke how pathetic and childlike public discourse has become.

Well I completely agree on your last line.

So you could start by a) not generalising the whole of the left wing vote (you've not met 'most of them' and I'd put money on 'most of them' being far more intellectually capable than you) and b) not using terms such as 'lefties', 'loony lefties' or 'the lunatic left'.

Until you and people of your ilk stop resorting to all of that, I'm afraid you don't get to complain if you get called a right wing Nazi (P.S Lineker didn't call anyone a Nazi - find us the quote where he did).

Let's see if you can take your own advice and engage in adult debate without resorting to such lowlife tactics.

Bryan Cranston Mic Drop GIF
 
Who actually watches MOTD every week? Is anybody really that bothered about it??

I occasionally put it on iplayer fast forward to spurs. Turn it off after. Job done.

But I can just go on so many different places on YouTube to see football content that MOTD seems a waste of time.
 
Who's suggesting an open door immigration policy? I've checked the Green Party's policies and I don't see that suggested anywhere. Maybe you have a better source? If so, can you provide it?




Of course, many are fleeing from warzones in regions of the world that were destabilised/ruined by Anglo-American military intervention. They come to the UK because they have ties to this country. Perhaps they have family here, or they speak English. But I'm really not sure how wanting all these things you've listed is a bad thing. Or do you honestly expect people living in a warzone, or the threat of religious persecution to just tolerate it?




Nope. Research shows that migrants to the UK pay far more into the government's tax coffers than they receive in benefits.





That's not true. According to Government figures, we currently have around 1.19million job vacancies in the UK.




Source? Because once again, that's not true.

Most come to the UK specifically because they speak English and have ties to the country.



Crikey! You're going to have to share your sources for these figures because it seem we're in worse shape than we previously thought. According to the Government's own figures, we have taken in 190,000 people under various refugee schemes, and with our current population at around 67.8million, makes this around 0.28%. To put it another way, that's not even as many people as we lost to COVID.

If our country's infrastructure is in such bad a shape that it can't cope with an additional 0.28% of people, then this is a seriously damning indictment of 13 years of Tory rule. Just a suggestion, but maybe don't vote for them anymore if they're THAT incompetent.

But... I suspect your point was more hyperbole.



You've not made any observations. You've just made a load of stuff up.



Yep, the right wing media do have a lot to answer for...
Are you being disengenious or are you really this stupid?

You are talking about Legal immigration. Talking about refugee schemes and other legal means to enter the country and citing a load of facts and figures which while very nice I'm sure have nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about illegals. Maybe you haven't noticed but this is the thread about Gary Lineker and we are talking about Gary's drawing absurd comparisons about Nazi's to the latest government bill which is designed to target ILLEGAL immigrants and prevent them claiming asylum.

This is the bill that Caroline (drama queen) Lucas tore up.

It's not even controversial its designed to stop illegals coming here in small boats and on the backs of lorries. But like you, she clearly doesn't understand the basic distinctions.

You want to argue about Oranges and cite a load of statistics about oranges when I'm talking about Apples.

Incidentally its costing the UK some £6m per day to house and feed these illegal immigrants, and there are some 160,000 people who are here illegally currently seeking asylum. While their applications are being processed the taxpayer is paying for them.

If we were talking about taking in people legally seeking aslyum from to use an example Afghanistan, People that may have supported the US/UK and are therefore in danger. I don't have a problem with that.

What I do have a problem with is lefties who are so incredibly disengenious as to try and lump everything together into one catageory when it suits them to try and play little games.
 
Well I completely agree on your last line.

So you could start by a) not generalising the whole of the left wing vote (you've not met 'most of them' and I'd put money on 'most of them' being far more intellectually capable than you) and b) not using terms such as 'lefties', 'loony lefties' or 'the lunatic left'.

Until you and people of your ilk stop resorting to all of that, I'm afraid you don't get to complain if you get called a right wing Nazi (P.S Lineker didn't call anyone a Nazi - find us the quote where he did).

Let's see if you can take your own advice and engage in adult debate without resorting to such lowlife tactics.

Bryan Cranston Mic Drop GIF
Why would I want to engage in civil discourse with people who refer to people like me as gammons and have no intention of even listening to what's being said let alone putting up a logical argument?

When it comes to lefties I took the gloves off a while back.

So pick your mic up and do your best not to dribble on it.
 
Why would I want to engage in civil discourse with people who refer to people like me as gammons and have no intention of even listening to what's being said let alone putting up a logical argument?

When it comes to lefties I took the gloves off a while back.

So pick your mic up and do your best not to dribble on it.

Why should ‘lefties’ want to engage in civil discourse with people who refer to them as loony or lunatics and have no intention of even listening to what’s being said let alone putting up a logical argument?

When it comes to righties I took the gloves off a while back.

My mic will stay dropped. Do your best not to stumble over it in your clown shoes!

:adethumbup:
 
What I do have a problem with is lefties who are so incredibly disengenious as to try and lump everything together into one catageory when it suits them to try and play little games.
Lets be honest, the left absolutely detest the general British demographic because they are not far left, and generally vote centre right.

Ethnic replacement is the only way the left gets a sniff of power. Of course that all looks far less ugly if they can virtue signal about refugees etc and colonial guilt etc.

The irony of it all is that second/third generation immigrants like Sunak and Braverman become very conservative.
 
Why should ‘lefties’ want to engage in civil discourse with people who refer to them as loony or lunatics and have no intention of even listening to what’s being said let alone putting up a logical argument?

When it comes to righties I took the gloves off a while back.

My mic will stay dropped. Do your best not to stumble over it in your clown shoes!

:adethumbup:
But you are a hypocrit my dude, because you expect me to play nicely and go out of your way to write a post asking me to be civil, but I don't see you calling them out when they are throwing terms like gammon around.
I don't see you defending the government when they are getting called Nazi's for daring to write a policy designed to tackle illegal immigration.

I think what's really happening here is you love to see it being dished out those you consider to be on the right but you can't take it when you get a little bit back at you.
 
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