Easily. I’d probably even swallow relegation if it meant we’d won the league recently.
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Easily. I’d probably even swallow relegation if it meant we’d won the league recently.
It will never go away because we will always hit a rut so the sentiment will always be bubbling under the surface but that's no different to many other fanbases, fans start to look for scapegoats when you lose or are in bad moments.
Yes that is the point, no-one's chanting negative shit after a decisive win which is how I know the ENIC out sentiment is largely bollocks.
These chants/protests never go past a vocal minority, it's always a loudish minority and it's always half arsed.
Wasn't Conte meant to be Levy's last chance and the last throw of the dice and if it fails he's got nowhere to run...threats of protests and everyone turning on Levy if it went wrong yada yada yada
I mean there's just a handful of fans that are blaming them with any vim, the rest meh...
I actually agree with you regarding the apathy.
However; once these things reach a certain stage there is an inevitability that cannot be avoided.
I think the days of Levy and ENIC escaping the blame from the majority of supporters has passed by.
Levy out is now part of the culture at Spurs.
It will be chanted every time there is frustration and those chants will get louder unless Spurs win a trophy or Levy & ENIC sell up.
I don't think a League Cup win will keep the illusion going for long either.
Not another 15 years anyway.
100%
we posted big losses. We (the club) paid for our infra, Bloom funded theirs. How do you know it will be repayable? He’s a proper fan unlike the filthy midget bean counter fraud
Top season ticket prices for 14 of the last 14 seasons #consistent
That Levy and Lewis are utter cunts. Not a point that needs making tbf, everyone with a brain can see that
Now theres a fact the Frenchman can't dispute
Ended up with a caretaker manager for four or five of those if I’m not mistake . A truly staggering admission of gross negligence and poor leadership
I think I agree, would be nice to kick arse in the Championship and win that trophy too! At last we'd have some silverware in the cabinet and Levy would have to hire a silver polisher...
It would be hugely extreme and I’d never want to see us actually relegated but it is an interesting thought. At least then I could say I’ve seen us win the league in my lifetime.
Yeah but we got go karts lol
Me and friends that go to Spurs, Chelsea and Woolwich. We have some cheaper ST’s but it’s a tiny %. You would do well to find anyone that has a ST < £1K. Not the case at the other two
True it ain't going to happen but I just put it out there as a thought. I just want to see an open bus top parade through North London that is white not red. I can't really remember the last one.
I expect Levy has had his calculator out and totted up how much he'd lose if we ever got relegated...
Sorry but a house is not a comparison with a football club. For a start a football club is required to generate revenue through footballing activities a house is an asset which keeps you dry and nothing more unless you let it out. The stadium could be a comparison but then you must consider the level of debt and maintenance and of course the fact the stadium is a revenue generating asset. Of course the elephant in this room is value and house values go up but I'm afraid stadium values go down, don't believe just check out amortisation... Big Dan's already on it.The investment gains are unrealised. The asset (THFC) has increased in value but that doesn’t imply the owners now have the liquidity to invest huge sums.
As an analogy… let’s say you bought a house in 2001 for 300k. Now let’s say you completely remodelled it, improved the garden, added a pool and built a garage. Your total assets now (22 years later) might be worth 3 million through a combination of a rise in house prices generally and the money invested in your homes. That’s doesn’t mean you now have 300k in cash to spend on a boat… your cash is tied up in your investments.
You could take out a loan against the positive equity… that’s how billionaires often get liquidity. Most of Bezos’s wealth is tied up in stock… he can’t spend that money tonight but that’s a foolish thing to do for a football club. The transfer market doesn’t offer anything like safe returns so to take out loans against the club to invest in players is extremely foolish. EvenDeuterz isnt asking for that.
No idea where you get your 500m value from.
The investment in footballing activities is an absolute, otherwise your asset does not generate. But you think ....
What you fail to understand is the club have increased in value represented by an increase in the price of the stock. Enic under levy have taken out huge loans on the clubs books for which the club is responsible. This is all tied to the stadium and we have become nothing more than another property deal.
Ps Bezos wealth is tied up with stock, which is a highly liquid asset which he can trade..... Or are you talking options with defined time lines. Either way enic have placed a huge debt that the fans pay off while they will actually see a massive profit when they sell. Thier investment in players on the other has been criminal.
So in summary we've already taken out loan but you feel this can be ignored much like the playing staff...
No they haven't.
Most owners have invested their own money but it's gone down on the book's as a loan.
Aston villa being the only exception I think.
Brighton for example
Revealed! The staggering amount Brighton owner Tony Bloom has invested in Albion
Owner Tony Bloom lent Brighton a further £49 million interest free - according to football finance expert Kieran Maguire.
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"Tony Bloom lent Brighton a further £49 million interest free - according to football finance expert Kieran Maguire."
Exclusive: Brighton borrow £37m from financial institution after losses triple
Brighton and Hove Albion borrowed £37 million in November from an unnamed financial institution, secured against future broadcast revenues, Andy Naylor can reveal. This was done to free up owner-chairman Tony Bloom’s funding options. It follows the news that their losses last season more than...
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Another loan onto the club's books.
Everton will need to pay £150m loan if they get relegated
If Everton fall out of England's top division, administration could loom as well as a punishment if they are found to have breached the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules.
"The loan, extended from £100m to £150m by the club’s owner Farhad Moshiri last season, is repayable in 2027. But relegation would lead to a potential immediate demand for the money, as revealed in Everton’s 2021-22 financial accounts published on Friday."
Brighton have received somewhere around 400m in loans from Bloom. LOANS.No they haven't.
Most owners have invested their own money but it's gone down on the book's as a loan.
Aston villa being the only exception I think.
Brighton for example
Revealed! The staggering amount Brighton owner Tony Bloom has invested in Albion
Owner Tony Bloom lent Brighton a further £49 million interest free - according to football finance expert Kieran Maguire.
"Tony Bloom lent Brighton a further £49 million interest free - according to football finance expert Kieran Maguire."
Exclusive: Brighton borrow £37m from financial institution after losses triple
Brighton and Hove Albion borrowed £37 million in November from an unnamed financial institution, secured against future broadcast revenues, Andy Naylor can reveal. This was done to free up owner-chairman Tony Bloom’s funding options. It follows the news that their losses last season more than...