Unless he wants to play centre half for us.
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Unless he wants to play centre half for us.
That's from an old article where he said that he was taking his time and will wait until the Summer
These aggregators can fuck off.
“Always happy, never satisfied”. Interesting. He’d take the job if offered.
There’s no such thing as a ‘final hurdle’. This is the fundamental flaw in how you view things. You have this idea that there is a perfect correlation between fiscal health and success. And that we will reach this certain monetary point and achieve nirvana. Money provides the foundation, but clear and effective footballing strategy does the rest.
And that’s the bit that you and the French guy keep excusing - the football bit. That’s why I want ENIC gone. A remorseless track record of shit footballing decisions.
Trophy winning sides are cyclical. You have to build a generational team that will compete and win. See Liverpool. A few games away from winning the Quadruple. Now floundering. But you can bet your fucking bottom dollar they will be competing for the title before us. They won’t spend that much more. But they will identify the problem areas, address them, put in place a plan and aim for the title in 2025.
We won’t. We will buy a random selection of players, Maddison et al, hire a manager, sack him 18 months later and repeat.
ENIC have no footballing DNA and no vision for the what the team is and what it represents.
There’s also been the suggestion that we’ve had no luck. I’d suggest that having the greatest striker of the last three or four decades fall into your lap is pretty fucking lucky. But, as seems to always be the case, we’ll waste the opportunity.
Marvelous stuff. In future anyone that's still defending them please just refer to this post, it will save us all a lot of time.
Every manager will see us as a stepping stone.
None of them dreamed of managing us when they first started out.
He'll be better than Sanchez and Tanganga even now.
Ultimately this.
Poch would have seen us as a stepping stone too. However, he ended up getting the club and falling for it. Not impossible for our future manager either.
I don’t think we will ever compete with football clubs backed by countries. Manchester City, PSG and Newcastle will be ahead of us. Were not competing in the same league as them financially.
What Id like to hear from you is how we have achieved league positions equal to or better than our resources in 13 out of the past 14 seasons? 11 of those 14 seasons have been overperformance relative to our resources.
How have we managed that with « shit football decisions »?
Well, over the last seven or eight years, the reason is Harry Kane. London also has a lot to do with it; giving us an advantage in attracting the ‘best of the second string’.
Every day I open News Now and find that Levy has changed his mind as to his favourite.
Today it is Kompany !
We all know that it's going to be Rodgers so may as well get it over with.
Today it is Kompany !
We all know that it's going to be Rodgers so may as well get it over with.
So your explanation is that a club who makes shit footballing decisions can overperform if they have Harry Kane and are based in London?
Let’s test that.
Kane started playing regularly in the league in 14/15. In the five seasons before that Tottenham overachieved 4 times in the league and met expectations once. So the pattern of over performance predated Kane.
Also, London definitely confers an advantage when signing players but no other London club has the same pattern of overperformance over the long term that we do. And it doesn’t feel right that being in London is enough to compensate for « shit footballing decisions ».
Your explanations don’t seem convincing. An objective person would reassess. It is baffling to me why you are so keen to talk our club down.
Ever is a long time.
Kompany has done nothing.
Rodgers over him every day for now.
Either way it will be the wrong decision unless we win the quadruple.
What exactly do you mean by overperformance?
Finishing one or two places above our allotted financial weighting? So eighth in revenue but finished 6th - that sort of thing?
Exactly. And I wouldn’t give credit if it was 2 or 3 times. It is a consistent pattern of overperformance over more than 10 years. That’s not luck.
Good players.
As I say, Kane is a generational talent that has fired us up the table. Before that we had a pretty good Welshman on the books.
And that’s what is frustrating; we’ve never capitalised on our luck. We’ve surrounded those diamonds with too much dross.
To be clear; I have absolutely zero problem crediting ENIC for the good things they have done. Pushing ahead with the stadium build pre-Brexit and financial stagnation was vital. I don’t blame them for Covid. I think we were fucking unlucky to not win anything under Poch.
But I have absolutely zero faith in ENIC’s ability to formulate a footballing strategy and stick to it. I’m not even sure they would be capable of winning anything even if they had fossil fuel money.
I think they’ve taken us as far as they are can. Not that complaints will make the blind bit of difference. They will sell or stick around as they see fit.
2009 8th
2010 4th
2011 5th
2021 7th
2022 4th
2023 ? (I think we’ll be lucky if we get 5th)
I’m not seeing this ‘upward trajectory’ much of late. Not to say that we’ve been 90s crap (although this season’s football has been possibly even more unenjoyable as a whole), but, apart from the Poch days, it hardly feels like we’re progressing.
Oh wait…the stadium and training ground [aims fake gun at head and pulls imaginary trigger]
Fuck, fuck, fuck no
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