But this would still be separate from the actual criminal trial that is also ongoing, correct?
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Trial isn't currently in progress AFAIK.
Investigation, pending trial.
Can we bring Poch immediately now?
By the way, Juve had their points REINSTATED.
How does that even work?
How does that even work?
I’m not too informed on this situation, can someone explain to me why Juve got their points back but Paratici’s and a handful of the other Juve board member’s appeals were rejected? I’m confused as to how this makes any sense
Apparently they have postponed the penalty. Can punish them next season
Can we bring Poch immediately now?
Was this his final chance or are their other appeals he can drag us through?
This part seems incredible chaotic to me.
If they get 15 points added now they vault from mid table up into a champions league spot (3rd in the league), knocking AC Milan out.
Seems incredibly unfair.
Indeed.
But if they’re confident that they can get their evidence in order, they might have eyes on a bigger prize; outright relegating them etc.
It was his final chance regarding this trial (unless he takes it to CAS, but the accusations are financial ones which CAS cannot judge). He can be punished even further regarding other accusations.
Pure speculation, but this doesn’t feel like good news, at all, for Juve.
Prosecutors do not appear to be prepared to settle for the 15 point deduction and want a more significant punishment. So, the deduction has been removed, with a view to absolutely nailing them later in the year.
It’s a stay of execution, hence the personal charges remaining.
Paratici is done. Get him out.
Juventus have seen their 15-point Serie A penalty revoked pending a new trial to further clarify the capital gains controversy, so the FIGC Federal Court of Appeal must re-evaluate.
That could be within a month or drag on beyond the end of the season, so any punishment would be for the 2023-24 season.
That immediately pushes Juve up to third place in Serie A on 59 points, pushing Roma down to fourth, Milan fifth and Inter sixth.
It also means the bans on figures including Andrea Agnelli, Maurizio Arrivabene, Federico Cherubini and current Tottenham Hotspur director Fabio Paratici are also revoked.
This verdict had been increasingly likely since the three-hour hearing at the Collegio di Garanzia on Wednesday afternoon.
The FIGC did not present any evidence at the appeal, so their place was taken by CONI prosecutor Ugo Taucer, who effectively confessed the ruling “has a lack of clarity in the motivation that must be appreciated and evaluated by a new judgment.”
Juventus lawyers had argued to have the entire verdict revoked and ended here, but it will be litigated all over again, probably with even more evidence involving other clubs.
There is confusion as to why the FIGC imposed a 15-point penalty when its own prosecutor Giuseppe Chinè only requested nine points in January.
This is referenced clearly in today’s appeal verdict, demanding that the court explain the “causal nature” behind the 15-point penalty for behaviour that effectively did not have direct influence on the results.
It will be the third time the Federal Court of Justice has had to decide on the same situation involving Juventus.
There are also questions to be answered over why only Juventus saw their situation overturned, when in April 2022 all the 11 clubs and 59 individuals were cleared of artificially inflating the transfer fees to boost capital gains.
The court at the time found that for Juventus, Napoli, Sampdoria, Genoa, Empoli, Parma, Pisa, Pescara, Novara, Chievo and Pro Vercelli, there was no objective way of ascertaining the worth of a player other than the fee two clubs agreed to.
Juve alone had that verdict overturned on appeal in January 2023 because of new evidence in the form of wiretaps provided by the Prisma police investigation.
The ruling also states that Pavel Nedved, Paolo Galimberti, Assia Grazzioli-Venier, Caitlin Mary Hughes, Daniela Marilungo and Francesco Roncaglio have been cleared.
However, the appeals of Agnelli, Paratici, Cherubini and Arrivabene have been rejected, so they too will have their bans suspended temporarily pending a new trial.
I think there might be some translation issues with that last para. Still not 100% of the situation "appeals rejected" but "bans suspended until new trail" (this last bit makes sense)
That could be within a month or drag on beyond the end of the season, so any punishment would be for the 2023-24 season.
That immediately pushes Juve up to third place in Serie A on 59 points, pushing Roma down to fourth, Milan fifth and Inter sixth.
It also means the bans on figures including Andrea Agnelli, Maurizio Arrivabene, Federico Cherubini and current Tottenham Hotspur director Fabio Paratici are also revoked.
This verdict had been increasingly likely since the three-hour hearing at the Collegio di Garanzia on Wednesday afternoon.
The FIGC did not present any evidence at the appeal, so their place was taken by CONI prosecutor Ugo Taucer, who effectively confessed the ruling “has a lack of clarity in the motivation that must be appreciated and evaluated by a new judgment.”
Juventus lawyers had argued to have the entire verdict revoked and ended here, but it will be litigated all over again, probably with even more evidence involving other clubs.
There is confusion as to why the FIGC imposed a 15-point penalty when its own prosecutor Giuseppe Chinè only requested nine points in January.
This is referenced clearly in today’s appeal verdict, demanding that the court explain the “causal nature” behind the 15-point penalty for behaviour that effectively did not have direct influence on the results.
It will be the third time the Federal Court of Justice has had to decide on the same situation involving Juventus.
There are also questions to be answered over why only Juventus saw their situation overturned, when in April 2022 all the 11 clubs and 59 individuals were cleared of artificially inflating the transfer fees to boost capital gains.
The court at the time found that for Juventus, Napoli, Sampdoria, Genoa, Empoli, Parma, Pisa, Pescara, Novara, Chievo and Pro Vercelli, there was no objective way of ascertaining the worth of a player other than the fee two clubs agreed to.
Juve alone had that verdict overturned on appeal in January 2023 because of new evidence in the form of wiretaps provided by the Prisma police investigation.
The ruling also states that Pavel Nedved, Paolo Galimberti, Assia Grazzioli-Venier, Caitlin Mary Hughes, Daniela Marilungo and Francesco Roncaglio have been cleared.
However, the appeals of Agnelli, Paratici, Cherubini and Arrivabene have been rejected, so they too will have their bans suspended temporarily pending a new trial.
I think there might be some translation issues with that last para. Still not 100% of the situation "appeals rejected" but "bans suspended until new trail" (this last bit makes sense)
Levy has to get a grip and just fire him. Pay up his contract and be done with it.
We cannot be paralysed by this situation forever. Paratici has been a mediocre DoF anyway, we won’t miss him. Anyone who thinks Bryan Gil x Nuno makes football sense should not be in a job anyway.
We cannot be paralysed by this situation forever. Paratici has been a mediocre DoF anyway, we won’t miss him. Anyone who thinks Bryan Gil x Nuno makes football sense should not be in a job anyway.