Now we're getting somewhere, Jim...
Yes that's about right - and thanks for paraphrasing my reply, I appreciate that.
No problem...like you said, it's a good thing to be able to restate/paraphrase another's point. Keeps everyone focused...
The only change I'd make is minor
Minor, you say? Ok, let's have it...
I wouldn't say it's 'unfair' to criticise
To be clear, you "wouldn't say it's 'unfair' to criticize" Levy/ENIC based on the trophy-less decade?*** Ok, this is an interesting point...I'm interested to see where it goes, why, and under what conditions...but it stands to reason if someone doesn't find a particular line of criticism unfair then they'd agree with it...but we'll see...
I'm saying that my criteria for success doesn't result in that criticism
...and again, to be clear, your criteria of success is what, exactly? We've beaten around that bush but we've never really speciated it. I think it would help if you clearly defined what your criteria for success is...I can surmise that it is not based on trophy haul (but I'd still want clarity and precision). And though we've reference league position and respective finals we've only attributed it to nebulous ENIC IN entity.
But I can see this...the Poch years were awesome, getting up and knowing someone might be in for a drubbing, "your fucking shit", team of animals, etc etc. But I'd like to be clear of your position, or whichever you're arguing.
But I asked/my statement began...
So, for you, the answer is NO
I'm saying that my criteria for success doesn't result in that criticism
That is according to YOUR criteria...and since you utilize different criteria then by definition you believe any
other criteria is less than optimal, unfair, wrong, etc etc etc...whatever the case may be but it's not the best. Right? That stands to reason. You, scarletjim, think the best/most fair set of criteria is your own...right? I'm not sure this is controversial because I believe everyone that has ever lived thinks their take is best.
But this also means that you think yours is the most fair criteria (as everybody does)...unless you are saying that you are a person walking around with knowledge of a more fair set of criteria that you are eschewing for whatever particular reason that I'm sure many would be interested to hear about...
But most importantly, according to YOUR criteria (which I stated in the post to which you replied), it is thus unfair criticism to levy the trophy-less decade on Levy/ENIC...because your criteria isn't based on trophy haul it is based on something we'll hopefully learn about in a subsequent post. And according to YOUR criteria is what I am asking...no one else's criteria matters here.
Not sure I can agree with that change being minor, Jim...
***I get that this point is followed by "according to THEIR criteria" later in the post. I'm just responding in flow of the post and not in any way attempting to mischaracterize your reply...that should be abundantly clear but sometimes...in situations like this...folks will look for any reason to escape...not suggesting you'd do that but just getting out ahead of anything.