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Here is the truth without narrative. Historic league performance:


It clearly shows that under Poch we had the second best league form since 1950.

Here is the league performance in PL era:


It clearly shows we were a midtable club for the first decade until ENIC lifted us out of that into a club regularly playing in Europe which has not been the norm in our history.

The impact and high performance in the league is indisputable under ENIC.

Please can we have data on number of trophies won for completeness?
 


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In all seriousness I wouldn’t care if Levy wasn’t shit at football. He could pay himself £10m a season if he was competent.
 
He’s paid less than Fraser Forster or Davinson Sanchez. I think he’s having more impact than either.

Also the data excludes Ferran Soriano at City. Do we think he might be earning more through legal or illegal channels?

Who knows Mon ami

I just read further down the thread and, apparently, they’re 2021-22 figures regurgitated!
 
Please don’t bring cancer into this. Just stick to facts instead of insults.
Shut up you twat, the the trend is
clearly downwards now and it's amusing that you've failed to include this season in there which is as damning on you as it is on enic.

Id love you to provide a similar chart with clubs position and level of debt side by side. Makes very interesting viewing over the last 4 seasons.....
 
Please can we have data on number of trophies won for completeness?
Sure…

Champions League or equivalent

Won 0 times.
Best ever performance: 18/19 under ENIC

Pre ENIC competed 1 time.
Post ENIC competed 6 times.

Europa League or Equivalent

Won: 2 times (72 and 84).

Pre ENIC competed 6 times
Post ENIC competed 10 times

FA cup (since 1951)

Won: 6 times and 1 final (61, 62, 67, 81, 82, 91)

Pre Enic: 7 finals
Post ENIC: 0 finals

League Cup (since 1971)

Won: 3 times (73, 99, 08)

Pre ENIC: 3 finals
Post ENIC: 5 finals


Narrative

The significant drop off in performance under ENIC has been in the FA cup. We have historically been excellent in that competition but under ENIC we haven’t even reached a final.

Results in the League Cup have been strong under ENIC. We have reached more finals on 22 years than we did in 40 years before they arrived.

We have never competed with europes elite in the Champions League as consistently as we have done under ENIC. European competition has not been the norm in our history but it is now.
 
Sure…

Champions League or equivalent

Won 0 times.
Best ever performance: 18/19 under ENIC

Pre ENIC competed 1 time.
Post ENIC competed 6 times.

Europa League or Equivalent

Won: 2 times (72 and 84).

Pre ENIC competed 6 times
Post ENIC competed 10 times

FA cup (since 1951)

Won: 6 times and 1 final (61, 62, 67, 81, 82, 91)

Pre Enic: 7 finals
Post ENIC: 0 finals

League Cup (since 1971)

Won: 3 times (73, 99, 08)

Pre ENIC: 3 finals
Post ENIC: 5 finals


Narrative

The significant drop off in performance under ENIC has been in the FA cup. We have historically been excellent in that competition but under ENIC we haven’t even reached a final.

Results in the League Cup have been strong under ENIC. We have reached more finals on 22 years than we did in 40 years before they arrived.

We have never competed with europes elite in the Champions League as consistently as we have done under ENIC. European competition has not been the norm in our history but it is now.
This is a bit ridiculous to compare as historically far less teams qualified than they do now.
 
Shut up you twat, the the trend is
clearly downwards now and it's amusing that you've failed to include this season in there which is as damning on you as it is on enic.

Id love you to provide a similar chart with clubs position and level of debt side by side. Makes very interesting viewing over the last 4 seasons.....
This season hasn’t finished yet.

Do you see the clear proof that league performances under Poch were the second highest in our history?

Do you see that Levy has overseen a dramatic and sustained rise in performance since he took over compared to what came before?
 
Here is the truth without narrative. Historic league performance:


It clearly shows that under Poch we had the second best league form since 1950.

Here is the league performance in PL era:


It clearly shows we were a midtable club for the first decade until ENIC lifted us out of that into a club regularly playing in Europe which has not been the norm in our history.

The impact and high performance in the league is indisputable under ENIC.
But that isn’t the whole story is it?

It clearly shows we were a midtable club for the first decade until ENIC lifted us out of that into a club regularly playing in Europe which has not been the norm in our history.

Not been the norm isn’t exactly correct. It is arguably easier now (PL era) to gain a European place the before the EPL. And yet we managed it 14 times.

You can pull up stats to make any point. Judge it with your eyes I.E what has been played on the pitch in the last few years. Isn’t good is it?
 
This is a bit ridiculous to compare as historically far less teams qualified than they do now.
That’s a fair comment. I was trying to be descriptive.

But of course EVERYTHING needs to be contextualised in the same way. Winning the FA cup was a lot easier to do for upper midtable teams pre Premier League era. We haven’t won the FA cup since the PL era and that has coincided with increasing inequality and state-backed clubs who ignore financial rules that constrain the majority.
 
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