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ENIC In or ENIC Out

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Lenny Hatchet said:
NFL will either be a costly error for ENIC'S empire building or if they get the franchise a commercial wonderland but sadly no impact for the hand that feeds it all.

Tottenham FC have funded their dreams and will always pay the price for their absolute greed.
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Oh yeah, owning an NFL franchise would be ENIC's wet dream.

No relegation, no transfer fees, mediocrity rewarded, can trade your best players for multiple picks and some pork scratchings. That's their real goal, not winning trophies with a 'soccer' club.

Sad Jim Carrey GIF
 
Lenny Hatchet said:
NFL will either be a costly error for ENIC'S empire building or if they get the franchise a commercial wonderland but sadly no impact for the hand that feeds it all.
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I can't see a way in which it was actually all that costly for them. Yes, there is a unique field and locker rooms for the games, but the same turf for the NFL games is also the base layer for concerts and other sporting events. The actual costs specifically for NFL activities was likely very small compared to the total costs.
 
ILSpur said:
I can't see a way in which it was actually all that costly for them. Yes, there is a unique field and locker rooms for the games, but the same turf for the NFL games is also the base layer for concerts and other sporting events. The actual costs specifically for NFL activities was likely very small compared to the total costs.
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Not as a overall cost taken everything in to consideration. It must have added over £100 million plus on build costs ?
Certainly a long term strategy ,without a long term franchise they will consider it a failure. They can only increase their value through these projects and consider football a financial risk.
All these other uses have next to nothing fiscal advantage for the football side , so expensive for THFC because it doesn't benefit what most fans see as their only concern.
 
ILSpur said:
I can't see a way in which it was actually all that costly for them. Yes, there is a unique field and locker rooms for the games, but the same turf for the NFL games is also the base layer for concerts and other sporting events. The actual costs specifically for NFL activities was likely very small compared to the total costs.
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Lenny Hatchet said:
Not as a overall cost taken everything in to consideration. It must have added over £100 million plus on build costs ?
Certainly a long term strategy ,without a long term franchise they will consider it a failure. They can only increase their value through these projects and consider football a financial risk.
All these other uses have next to nothing fiscal advantage for the football side , so expensive for THFC because it doesn't benefit what most fans see as their only concern.
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Nobody asked my opinion but I've personally been torn between these two viewpoints for awhile.

On the one hand multifunctionality for the stadium may already have nearly paid for itself and can provide future dividends as well.

On the other hand, as much as I think the stadium is a terrific venue for the club, I have a hard time disagreeing with the notion of the whole real estate venture being part and parcel of ENIC's lack of belief in running a football club as their core business asset, which is the toxic core of the problem.
 
Lenny Hatchet said:
Not as a overall cost taken everything in to consideration. It must have added over £100 million plus on build costs ?
Certainly a long term strategy ,without a long term franchise they will consider it a failure. They can only increase their value through these projects and consider football a financial risk.
All these other uses have next to nothing fiscal advantage for the football side , so expensive for THFC because it doesn't benefit what most fans see as their only concern.
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We have no way of knowing for sure, but I can't imagine that Football specific expenses cost anywhere close to that. The retractable pitch is a usable asset for any other kind of entertainment that goes on at the stadium. The NFL locker rooms are unique to that but I can't imagine that they would be anything close to that. You could argue the turf since it the lines and whatnot are specific for the NFL, but I can't imagine that's 100 million either, and again all other events go over the top of that layer.

As I said though, can't really know for sure.

FightingIllini said:
...I have a hard time disagreeing with the notion of the whole real estate venture being part and parcel of ENIC's lack of belief in running a football club as their core business asset, which is the toxic core of the problem.
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Yeah, I understand the frustration that it causes while I can also see the intelligence behind it all. I could be absolutely wrong, but this seems to be far more of play taken out of American sports. Teams have purchased surrounding land and turned their stadiums into the center point of an entertainment district. Why let independent and small businesses profit off yours when you can just take it for yourself.

Ultimately it comes down to success, doesn't it? If we were challenging and winning trophies people wouldn't care less about how many hotels and go-kart tracks there were.
 
Didn’t know where to put this but if you want to cancel your spursplay subscription so it doesn’t renew automatically, you have to do it by the first week of July. Log into spursplay, go to account, then subscriptions and cancel it. I didn’t use it enough to mss as me it worthwhile.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Didn’t know where to put this but if you want to cancel your spursplay subscription so it doesn’t renew automatically, you have to do it by the first week of July. Log into spursplay, go to account, then subscriptions and cancel it. I didn’t use it enough to mss as me it worthwhile.
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I wanna keep it to watch pre-season but £45 is steep.

Was hoping they'd do a deal like last year.
 
John Thomas said:
Souness sees it 🤷‍♂️



The issues start and finish with him
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The bullshit about Levy bidding 50m for the Leicester boys can fuck off but conversations like this, with someone like Jordan, might actually get under Levy's skin a bit because he knows Jordan and these are more mature presenters and viewers.

He's surely aware that people aren't going to blame the manager anymore and that these debates will come up perpetually ABOUT HIM every time we get a transfer window wrong.

Spurs fans need to hope he either gets the transfer window right or these debates keep coming out.
Jordan is clearly baiting him into debating him.
 
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That helps thanks.

Still a little steep mind. But seen as I'm getting old I'll pay it with a grumble.
 
The same old 'Groundhog day' off season will most likely take place.(the signs are there already)

The last minute scramble to bring in 2nd or 3rd choice bargains and shift not nearly enough of the tried and failed club deadwood. (weighing the squad down)

This familiar off season format (sabotage) of Levy & Board always works against any successful (football) year ahead and most definitely costs us valuable points.

The manner in which it all plays out shows a failed template from someone supposedly successful at business.

We keep hoping something will change!
 
Sumo70's said:
The same old 'Groundhog day' off season will most likely take place.(the signs are there already)

The last minute scramble to bring in 2nd or 3rd choice bargains and shift not nearly enough of the tried and failed club deadwood. (weighing the squad down)

This familiar off season format (sabotage) of Levy & Board always works against any successful (football) year ahead and most definitely costs us valuable points.

The manner in which it all plays out shows a failed template from someone supposedly successful at business.

We keep hoping something will change!
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Impossible to argue with this. When an organisation goes through a rebuild, they allocate Capital money to enable it. Being specific to THFC, that would mean unwanted players are terminated and contracts settled early. Instead, like normal three dreggs will be polluting atmosphere all pre pressing before a late loan at end Aug. Halfwit never learns.

Obv further examples of failed strategy eg not buying specific players that the mgr wants (early) to allow them and their families to settle before season starts

Repeated cycles of similar actions. Dickhead never learns, cheap peasantry
 
John Thomas said:
Souness sees it 🤷‍♂️



The issues start and finish with him
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Think he nails it when he says the most important thing is recruitment, which is where the club (and this is on Levy in my opinion) has badly lost its way the past few years.

When Klopp had a load of shite at Liverpool, they competed for 6th place, a Europa League team. When he had quality players (some low priced gems like Robertson, some expensive signings like VVD) they competed for - and won - the league and champions league.
 
Tomo said:
Ignoring the Levy bit between Souness and Jordan.

‘’one of the genuinely big clubs in our country’’. Loved that statement, obviously older guy who remembers us from past decades.
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Thats why its so frustrating when the likes of Airfixx Airfixx , NotThatTedHughes NotThatTedHughes and LeParisien LeParisien are belittling and debasing our great Club on a daily basis to try and fight Levy's corner and defend his record.

A Big Club. A Great club. But a club being used and whored by parasites
.Not little tottenham punching above our weight like they want you to believe
 
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