The prosecution rests
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Player Heung-Min Son (손흥민)
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List of wingers in the PL older than Son:
Willian(Fulham) 5/6 in 27 apps
Ayew (Forest) - 0 goals
Stanislas (Bmouth) - 0 goals, probably done in the PL
Kebano (Fulham) - 0
Walcott (RIP Soton) - 2/2 in 13 apps
Mahrez - 5/10 in 30
Sarabia (Wolves) - 1
Salah - 19/12 in 38.
You basically have salah, willian, and mahrez as the only wingers older than him that produce. And they are all far superior technical players. Stats show Son has limited time left as a productive player in this league.
I genuinely don't get why you would compare him to any of these players other than Mahrez.
His numbers were better than 26yr old Bowen, who has been hailed as a fantastic player (I think he's good).
We've got the whole of next season to decide what we do (offer him a new deal or sell).
If Ange's football translates to the PL then it's a reasonable assumption at this point that Gil could shine. We've only ever seen him play for two of the most passive managers on planet football.
Caveat: The rest of those players were for the most part shit anyway.... Even in their younger days.
Sonny's always been a superior player to WIllian too.
The point is the list isn’t long. And the only productive players are highly technical… not pace reliant.
If Bryan Gil, who by the way doesn't really have buckets of goals in his locker even when he's excelled, is who we're relying on in the future we're totally fucked.
The squad is not as barren outside of Kane and Son as it was when Paratici took over, thankfully, but it is still extremely difficult to see a CL challenger being constructed from the remaining parts.
That Conte hated being here and demanded an always pragmatic and sometimes dire style of play is true. But the notion that he was a poor performing manager is a view that is going to age like fine milk.
You don't think Sonny's reported injury slowed him down a bit?
As I said throughout last season; whilst his performances had been poor (now there's suggestion as to why!); he has absolutely has enough credit in the bank to survive the cut after just one poor (by his standards) season.
Gil is a "vibes" player, most fans really enjoy watching him play (I do) but it's really hard to assess whether he could be a top player or not, top players get selected for not just what they do on the ball but off it also and in his position, especially in the last decade or so, has seen a more formulaic attacking structure's my gut tells me this maybe where he has some issues, but genuinely would love to see him at least be given opportunity for a manager known for attacking football (double quandary is whether Ange can make the step up to this level). I think he has the technical ability, I don't know if he has the legs to press, or is physical enough off the ball (looking for off-the-ball work similar to Bernardo Silva, similar builds, doesn't need to use strength but uses the whole body to step across oppo player, harass oppo for 90mins etc).
But we have time by keeping Son, for at least another year and there is still big value in him.
If Ange can get his ball to scale up then he will make Conte look like a cunt.
Son breaks silence on Spurs future with firm response to Saudi links
Al-Ittihad are reportedly keen to sign the Spurs forward for a fee in the region of £50million
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Great commitment from a brilliant player!!
A bit sure. But he fell off far more than a bit.
A good club can move players on immediately before a harsh decline or at worst, soon after while they still have value.
Poorly run clubs hold onto these players and put up with years of poor performance until their value is gone.
Son might recover next season and it may be due to a change of style. But he was excellent in 21/22 with conte. It’s not like we changed our tactics last season.
There seems to be a weird denial in admitting age is factoring into son’s decline. It’s not even an abnormal situation like dele… he’s 31 next month.
I like son a lot and am grateful for his career with us but I like spurs more. If he has a 2nd consecutive poor season, his value is gone.
I love Sonny but I wouldn't be terribly fussed if he left this year. We've had the best years of his career and I'm hopeful he might find better form under new management.Son breaks silence on Spurs future with firm response to Saudi links
Al-Ittihad are reportedly keen to sign the Spurs forward for a fee in the region of £50million
Great commitment from a brilliant player!!
HOWEVER, I have the utmost respect for him, more so after he has turned down stupid money in Saudi Arabia. Clearly a man whose own values matter more than money.
Son breaks silence on Spurs future with firm response to Saudi links
Al-Ittihad are reportedly keen to sign the Spurs forward for a fee in the region of £50million
Great commitment from a brilliant player!!
If only more people had his attitude
I was alluding specifically to your talk of loss of pace.
Either way, we don't know how badly he wa hurting so "a bit" is entirely contentious.
1 year is not "years".
We visibly did.
I'm not in denial thx.
Problem is Rich and Kulu suck at scoring, so we had to play Son. If we had better options, then maybe it would have been different.
Plus he's got plenty of credit in the bank to be allowed 1 bad season.