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Brief Athletic write-up on Mickey from the U21 Euros:

Defender (Wolfsburg/Netherlands), 22

Supposedly, if Josko Gvardiol leaves RB Leipzig this summer, Van de Ven would be on the shortlist to replace him. Whether that is accurate or not, on this evidence it would not be the worst idea.

He captained the Dutch team for part of the Portugal game and he certainly seems to have a presence. One of the advantages of the stadiums not being full is that you can hear most of what the players are saying — and Van de Ven is loud and vocal and everything you’d expect from a leader in that sense. More interesting, though, is the blend of size, speed and technical passing ability with which he plays.

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Everyone knows about his pace; most people have seen that video of him defending a Union Berlin breakaway in the Bundesliga last season, blocking Jerome Roussillon’s shot on the goal line.

But his switches of play are impressively accurate and, against Portugal, he showed that he can either cut the ball into midfield, taking out lines of pressing players in the process, or just carry possession up the pitch himself. Think of him as a broad-shouldered Jan Vertonghen. That’s not who he is currently, but it shouldn’t be a ridiculous comparison in three or four years’ time.

This tournament can create false comparisons in the way that it pits players against each other who are at different stages of their physical development. So, the value of Van de Ven’s strength is difficult to measure within this particular context. But it is worth mentioning that he made Wolves’ Fabio Silva look helpless up front — he was too big, too quick, and too smart for him.

Silva is hardly a star of the game, but he has played well over 100 senior matches in England, Belgium and the Netherlands, so that dominance is a measure of something.
Just think that with Contes back 3 how good Romero…Tapsoba…
Brief Athletic write-up on Mickey from the U21 Euros:

Defender (Wolfsburg/Netherlands), 22

Supposedly, if Josko Gvardiol leaves RB Leipzig this summer, Van de Ven would be on the shortlist to replace him. Whether that is accurate or not, on this evidence it would not be the worst idea.

He captained the Dutch team for part of the Portugal game and he certainly seems to have a presence. One of the advantages of the stadiums not being full is that you can hear most of what the players are saying — and Van de Ven is loud and vocal and everything you’d expect from a leader in that sense. More interesting, though, is the blend of size, speed and technical passing ability with which he plays.

GettyImages-1259016275-scaled.jpg


Everyone knows about his pace; most people have seen that video of him defending a Union Berlin breakaway in the Bundesliga last season, blocking Jerome Roussillon’s shot on the goal line.

But his switches of play are impressively accurate and, against Portugal, he showed that he can either cut the ball into midfield, taking out lines of pressing players in the process, or just carry possession up the pitch himself. Think of him as a broad-shouldered Jan Vertonghen. That’s not who he is currently, but it shouldn’t be a ridiculous comparison in three or four years’ time.

This tournament can create false comparisons in the way that it pits players against each other who are at different stages of their physical development. So, the value of Van de Ven’s strength is difficult to measure within this particular context. But it is worth mentioning that he made Wolves’ Fabio Silva look helpless up front — he was too big, too quick, and too smart for him.

Silva is hardly a star of the game, but he has played well over 100 senior matches in England, Belgium and the Netherlands, so that dominance is a measure of something.
Imgine Romero….Tapsoba….Van de Ven as a back 3 in Contes system.
 


35m and I’m taking Sancho over Barnes


His wages will be 3 or 4 times as much.

What is it you like about Sancho? He’s technical but slow, and there’s zero aggression to his play style. I can’t imagine Ange will like him at all.

United fans would love to see the back of him. Antony puts up even worse numbers but his off the ball work is infinitely better.

He’s been overpaid early in his career and it looks to me like the fire has gone out. Can we take that kind of risk?
 
Still a big gamble, the last thing we need is another player that doesn't perform.

With questionable work effort too.

Sancho doesn’t bloody attack his fullback. That’s the one thing a premier league wide player should always be expected to do. He receives the ball and passes it back.

If there’s one think I hate most it’s a passive winger.
 
His wages will be 3 or 4 times as much.

What is it you like about Sancho? He’s technical but slow, and there’s zero aggression to his play style. I can’t imagine Ange will like him at all.

United fans would love to see the back of him. Antony puts up even worse numbers but his off the ball work is infinitely better.

He’s been overpaid early in his career and it looks to me like the fire has gone out. Can we take that kind of risk?
Plays either wing, beats people 1v1, technically good, can finish inside and outside the box. Young, HG, maybe has a point to prove.

A lot of it would come down to his mentality. If he took a pay cut to move and prove a point, there is a player there.
 
Plays either wing, beats people 1v1, technically good, can finish inside and outside the box. Young, HG, maybe has a point to prove.

A lot of it would come down to his mentality. If he took a pay cut to move and prove a point, there is a player there.

He rarely beats people 1v1. Every time I watch him he looks scared to do it. He’s just not got that burst of pace to scare premier league fullbacks. Or the aggression.

And if he the prospect of proving himself at the biggest club in the country under a coach who has revitalised a number of players hasn’t got him wanting to prove a point, why would a move to Spurs?

There’s so many question marks over this player.
 
Sancho was one of the best wingers in the World at Dortmund, Utd have been a basket case of a club in the last few years and he's lost his way, a new enviroment/coach gets him back on track, his wages are ridiculous though so I can't see anyone taking him unless Utd subsidize them.
 
Sancho was one of the best wingers in the World at Dortmund, Utd have been a basket case of a club in the last few years and he's lost his way, a new enviroment/coach gets him back on track, his wages are ridiculous though so I can't see anyone taking him unless Utd subsidize them.
Can't see us paying him half to be honest - whoever signed off at £350,000 a week for Sancho at 21 years old and thought it was a good idea needs to give their head a wobble.
 
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