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Did we already have prime Jan and Toby when we signed Davinson for a club record?

Feel like we did…

How does that fit with this insane idea that we can’t sign VdV and Tapsoba because we need to guarantee football players a starting 11 role?

If people want to argue about transfers holding us back, let’s start with small club mentality like this bollox
 
Did we already have prime Jan and Toby when we signed Davinson for a club record?

Feel like we did…

How does that fit with this insane idea that we can’t sign VdV and Tapsoba because we need to guarantee football players a starting 11 role?

If people want to argue about transfers holding us back, let’s start with small club mentality like this bollox
This has been explained to you about 20 times by different people in the last week or so.

Davinson and VdV are two different people, who may well have different opinions, priorities, beliefs etc. You can't just keep treating players like factory-made products, they are all different.

  • If VdV wants to sign with a view to forcing his way ahead of Romero and Tapsoba in the pecking order, than that's great and I haven't seen anyone here who says it would be a bad idea.
  • If VdV doesn't want that, then he won't sign if he knows Tapsoba is also going to sign, meaning we would have to look elsewhere for one or the other (Tosin being the much-touted alternative recently).
 
Did we already have prime Jan and Toby when we signed Davinson for a club record?

Feel like we did…

How does that fit with this insane idea that we can’t sign VdV and Tapsoba because we need to guarantee football players a starting 11 role?

If people want to argue about transfers holding us back, let’s start with small club mentality like this bollox

We signed both Dav & Foyth in the same window whilst T & J were in their pomp...... (Attempted succession planning that apparently we have never strived to do)

TBH; I think the current chatter that you refer to would be a complete non-starter if we hadn't bombed out of Europe.
 
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I would argue the internal downgrading of certain competitions is the biggest factor though. The piss take line ups we keep putting out in the FA cup and then getting knocked out by Championship sides away, whilst Man City go full strength at home to Bristol City. The utter disdain we treated the Conference league with - ditto the Europa most years we’ve been in it.

We take the League and CL seriously - but we’re up against absolute juggernauts trying to win those. The League cup we tend to treat a bit better than the other second at competitions for whatever reason - probably the majority of games being pre Xmas. We have made the final of that 6 times in 24 years which is decent.

I will go fucking spare if we rest players in the cup games this season unless we do what Woolwich did last year and have a fairytale start that sees us pulling away in the league. Anything else in unacceptable
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Did we already have prime Jan and Toby when we signed Davinson for a club record?

Feel like we did…

How does that fit with this insane idea that we can’t sign VdV and Tapsoba because we need to guarantee football players a starting 11 role?

If people want to argue about transfers holding us back, let’s start with small club mentality like this bollox
We really should just sign both. There is 0 reason not to.

Tapsoba can play both sides, so adds competition for Romero aswell as being the best option at LCB. VDV is good enough to compete with Tapsoba while possibly providing cover for left back.

All will get minutes, Romero has some sort issue with ban or small injury. Tapsoba will be away for internationals in winter. Plenty of minutes to go around.

I've never liked the idea that someone is just signed to be an understudy or guaranteed starter.

Even with Manor Solomon I expect him to fight for his place and push Son and others all the way to try and start ahead of them.

Should be healthy competition.
 
We really should just sign both. There is 0 reason not to.

The subject doesn't center around what we think the club should do though..... It's about whether the players fancy the idea of riding the bench all season, relying on the mere possibility of a cup run and hoping (not hoping) for injuries.

Tapsoba can play both sides, so adds competition for Romero aswell as being the best option at LCB. VDV is good enough to compete with Tapsoba while possibly providing cover for left back.

All will get minutes, Romero has some sort issue with ban or small injury. Tapsoba will be away for internationals in winter. Plenty of minutes to go around.

I've never liked the idea that someone is just signed to be an understudy or guaranteed starter.

Even with Manor Solomon I expect him to fight for his place and push Son and others all the way to try and start ahead of them.

Should be healthy competition.

Yes; from a Spurs perspective it would be great.
 
I am talking about transfers though, where are the centre backs?

It's a fair question I feel given the tour is imminent and I've seen this shit so many times from ENIC. Leaving it until the season has already started to make a critical signing.

Do you want to see Dier and Lenglet lining up as our CB pairing next season when Romero gets an injury/suspension?
Weve already made 2 crtical signings
 
The thing that makes me chuckle are comments like 'Fans are fickle. If the football is good again, the fans will be happy', like it's a winning comment. We're human beings. Of course if something goes well it makes us happier. But that's not being fickle. Fickle would be if fans suddenly started singing 'We love you, Levy, we do' if we get fourth place. Does anyone really believe that's happening?

If a submarine sinks to the bottom of the ocean, people are going to be happy if it's rescued. The bigger question is: why was the submarine allowed to sink in the first place causing distress. Some of us - well, now many of us - know that it's because corners were cut with its construction and the wrong captains were given the wrong crews. And who is ultimately to blame? The chairman.

Is it any wonder then that a large number of fans and media feel that the chairman is incompetent when it comes to footballing matters? Is it surprising when they suspect that the same corners are currently being cut?*

The stadium was, for quite some time, Levy's veil. He was able to hide behind it. No longer.

I hope Ange lives up to the hype. I hope the squad we're assembling gives opponents hell and reunites the fanbase. But even if it does and we go on a great run, the fans (and the media) are now wise to Levy's ways. While he's in charge, he will be forever under the microscope thanks to the terrible decisions he's made, and every wrong turn will likely be met with 'Levy out' chants. And if any of you genuinely don't think those chip away at the man, you have no grasp of human nature. We may not be able to force him out but we can make his stay as uncomfortable as possible whenever necessary.

For what it's worth, I'm happy to see that a restructuring is taking place and that we're aiming to get back to front-foot attacking football. Right now, I'm quite excited and cautiously optimistic.

I'll happily position a hen with a robotic arseclunge to fire eggs all over my face if Levy oversees an effective, fighting football club and he maintains the right staff to keep it constantly striving for success year after year hereon out.

We'll see ...

* I remain on the sidelines here until the end of the transfer window but I understand where they're coming from after all these years of poor transfer decisions.
The irony here is that many of us labelled as "bots" or "Levy lovers" don't disagree with you.

Apparently I'm a "regime enthusiast" despite posting pretty much the same thing earlier.

That's not nearly enough for some on here. If you are not extolling hate, then you MUST be the enemy.

Even that is not enough though. You have to be rolling the hate diatribe out every day for acceptance.
 
Admin has asked for the bickering and 'poking' to stop. "To put right years of neglect" is very clearly continuing that poking. I'm sure we all have plenty more (ultimately utterly pointless I expect) arguments to make towards each other, but can we please ALL do as we're asked on this thread and stick to transfer talk without the very obvious underlying thrust?

So, ignoring the inflamatory second part of your sentence, but answering the first:

I would like to see Gvardiol, Bastoni, prime Baresi and prime Kompany. But that's not going to happen, so let's focus on what is realistic...

  • If two really top quality CBs are happy to sign, then that would be fantatic.
  • Failing that, if one top CB is happy to sign as first choice, and one 'next level down' with great potential is happy to sign with a view to forcing himself into being 'first choice', then that's next best thing and might be most realistic possibility.
  • If we don't sign 2 CBs of some description this summer, at least one being instantly first choice, I will be very disappointed. If that happens I will have no choice but to hope that it's because Ange is keen on more of the existing ones than we expected, but I'll be sceptical that it's a mistake.
I think it will be your second one. With tosin from fulham who did have a v good season and would be a steal at 15-20 mil. Good passer and quick. Was praised for keeping haaland quiet
 
It's like this window. It's a mirror of so many windows and the illusion of ambition.

We've done decent business so far but its nowhere near enough, and when you actually look at it.

We've got Maddison on the cheap due to Leicester being relegated and a cheap keeper. I've heard he's class so I'm not complaining.

And I'm certainly not saying that buying players for cheap or getting good deals is a bad thing.

What I am saying is, Where is the rest of the money??

I want to see us slap down some serious bunce on the problem areas in this team.

Show some fucking ambition. Look at that mob up the road.

To not have any Centre backs through the door at this stage is criminal. It's the one position we absolutley need quality, they know that as much as I do.
So you've effectively repeated exactly what I have said in numerous posts over the last few weeks.

Does that now make you a "regime enthusiast?"

The accusation has been levelled at me, so you must be as your thoughts align with mine.

Isn't that the way it works on here?
 
Admin has asked for the bickering and 'poking' to stop. "To put right years of neglect" is very clearly continuing that poking.
I'm sorry, but I don't see how it is 'poking'

Otherwise it's like going into a match thread and not being allowed to be critical of the players performance. Or going in to a manager thread and not being able to criticise his tactics.

It's all part of the debate. Or at least should be.

I agree the bickering is becoming a bit silly. But, ironically, a lot of it is being caused by people throwing a tantrum at any form of criticism and trying to determine what is and isn't relevant relevant.

If people just let the thread flow and allowed others to post their honest opinions then I think we'd all be happy😊
 
We really should just sign both. There is 0 reason not to.

Tapsoba can play both sides, so adds competition for Romero aswell as being the best option at LCB. VDV is good enough to compete with Tapsoba while possibly providing cover for left back.

All will get minutes, Romero has some sort issue with ban or small injury. Tapsoba will be away for internationals in winter. Plenty of minutes to go around.

I've never liked the idea that someone is just signed to be an understudy or guaranteed starter.

Even with Manor Solomon I expect him to fight for his place and push Son and others all the way to try and start ahead of them.

Should be healthy competition.
Exactly
 
The subject doesn't center around what we think the club should do though..... It's about whether the players fancy the idea of riding the bench all season, relying on the mere possibility of a cup run and hoping (not hoping) for injuries.



Yes; from a Spurs perspective it would be great.
They're professional footballers I think most would back themselves to compete at the highest level they can at that moment in time.

Between the 3 of them they should easily rack up 25 -30appearances each in all competitions.

I would imagine the player will be getting paid a atleast double what he's on now to soften the blow if they don't start.
 
The subject doesn't center around what we think the club should do though..... It's about whether the players fancy the idea of riding the bench all season, relying on the mere possibility of a cup run and hoping (not hoping) for injuries.



Yes; from a Spurs perspective it would be great.
Do we know the players are reluctant to come if we sign other good players?

Not sure I’ve seen any quotes from either VdV or Tapsoba saying that?
 
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