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Management Ange Postecoglou

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NotThatTedHughes said:
I think there’s probably already been a sea change in the dressing room:
Harry gone. Hugo on the way. Dier effectively shut out.
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It does make you wonder how toxic it became in the changing room with little cliques possibly undermining squad spirit.
I often think back to that Amazon documentary where Danny Rose had a strop and said he was going to “talk to Daniel”. I suspect there could have been quite a lot of that going on behind the scenes.
Probably because Levy wanted to be everyone’s mate and was happy with that kind of backstabbing gossip with various senior players having an audience with him.
It does seem that there has been a bit of distance created between chairman and players.
Nothing to support it as fact but it’s a strong hunch I have.
 
Post match media:

Media: "When you make those decisions, I'm saying they are obviously big decisions, you've got experienced players on the bench and young players and so, is it just a feeling you've got, or is that just completely the way you want go in the future?"

Ange: "I'd like to think I know what I'm doing mate, so.."

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I would get out some receipts, but everyone is fully on board so who gives a fuck who doubted him. Proven everyone wrong in rapid time, has there ever been a manager who’s got two songs in two games? He’s the fucking man.

I really hope the guy I spoke to in Bricklayers before United at home in April who said ‘who the fuck is that?’ When I said we should get in Postecoglou remembers our conversation :ange-lol:
 
Woke up feeling very excited for the future. It does feel a bit like my real life team have been sucked into an episode of Ted Lasso. No disrespect to Ange there; well aware that he was never was some clueless footballing idiot. But the way he’s changing the culture away from the recent toxicity by supporting the players, while giving them more responsibility. And the way he handles the media with candour but with the little homespun stories that make him so likeable. I may be reading way too much into this now, but even the way the players were actually talking to our mascots yesterday and interacting with them, like the kids were actual human beings was such a sea change.

On his tactics, whilst I love all his talk of all-out attack there was a nagging doubt this would be exposed in the Prem. What I learned yesterday was he’s more subtle than that. I thought the subs were very telling, and though he thankfully didn’t get us to defend a 1 nil lead, he put on more defensive players so he’s maybe not really that gung-ho. Also, was frustrated in the Brentford game by the lack of penetration in the box but that was so different yesterday. It’s like there’s actual coaching going on.

This is on 2 games of course but it’s a great start. However undercooked Utd were, this is the first time we beat them in the not-so-new stadium, so it’s not to be sniffed at. He made Ten Hag look v weak yesterday.
 
Conte screwed the team up last season - using players in wrong formations or out of position, ignoring some players (because of his ego) and not giving confidence to his younger players.

I wasn’t elated when I first heard about Ange (mainly because I hadn’t heard about him before that) but every game we’ve played, since pre-season, I’m liking him more and more.

Looks like we’ve got our Tottenham back again - thanks to Ange.
 
Well aware how early it is in his tenure but I'm predicting Ange will become one of Spurs' great managers - as long as Levy gives him everything he wants and needs. If Ange stays three years I think that will already mean there has been some kind of success. If he stays five years, there will probably be extraordinary success.

A word of caution... CFG love him to bits and he's long been talked about as a potential successor to Pep. He's also said many times that he's a boyhood Liverpool fan and managing them would be his absolute dream job.

Success with Spurs could turn Spurs into his dream job.
 
Loved it at the start of the game when he goes to shake ten Hag's hand and he pulls the hand over the top dominating handshake pulling the man utd manager towards him. A proper alpha move showing who is boss.

Check it out if you can find it online.
 
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Postecoglou's clear Daniel Levy transfer message and what Bissouma did to Sarr

Here are our Tottenham Hotspur talking points after their 2-0 victory against Manchester United in the Premier League on Saturday evening
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Bissouma has been unleashed by Postecoglou and he's loving the way he's being treated by the Australian.

"He's more open. He's very calm and talks a lot with his players," Bissouma said ahead of the game. "He's like a friend, a dad, an uncle, he's everything. He plays all of these roles. He's very chill, he's relaxed - never putting pressure on his players. He just tries to tell us what he wants. For me, he's an amazing person and an amazing coach as well."
 
I liked his interview after the game where he said they showed them some clips at half time to highlight a few things.

I know it's an obvious thing but he couldn't select those clips and get them sorted so quickly so it shows his team are fully on board with what he wants. Everyone seems to pushing pushing the same way which some have rumoured hasn't been the case for a while.

Must really help the players understand what he wants when they see things so quickly, almost in real time.

Think he even impressed Keane a little bit after the game!
 
The Romanian Jack said:
Right. So what’s the difference between Postecoglou and say, Paulo Fonseca, for example? The latter also sets his teams up to attack, just like Postecoglou, you could say he’s the right profile.


So your argument is that I should just be a little more optimistic. :ange-lol:
It’s not about the glass is always half empty, it’s about staying realistic…
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Difference between Fonseca and Ange. I don't know. I'm pretty certain that we would have enjoyed watching spurs play football more the last years if we had hired Fonseca.
 
Gilded Lily said:
Woke up feeling very excited for the future. It does feel a bit like my real life team have been sucked into an episode of Ted Lasso. No disrespect to Ange there; well aware that he was never was some clueless footballing idiot. But the way he’s changing the culture away from the recent toxicity by supporting the players, while giving them more responsibility. And the way he handles the media with candour but with the little homespun stories that make him so likeable. I may be reading way too much into this now, but even the way the players were actually talking to our mascots yesterday and interacting with them, like the kids were actual human beings was such a sea change.

On his tactics, whilst I love all his talk of all-out attack there was a nagging doubt this would be exposed in the Prem. What I learned yesterday was he’s more subtle than that. I thought the subs were very telling, and though he thankfully didn’t get us to defend a 1 nil lead, he put on more defensive players so he’s maybe not really that gung-ho. Also, was frustrated in the Brentford game by the lack of penetration in the box but that was so different yesterday. It’s like there’s actual coaching going on.

This is on 2 games of course but it’s a great start. However undercooked Utd were, this is the first time we beat them in the not-so-new stadium, so it’s not to be sniffed at. He made Ten Hag look v weak yesterday.
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Yeah, on the tactics thing, although his principles of being aggressive, trying to dominate the game and always playing for the win will remain regardless of opposition, I suspected he'd be slightly more circumspect in the Premier League.

It's not necessarily about it being the Premier League I don't think, but rather the quality of his team relative to the opposition, which will almost always be less of a gap than Celtic vs the SPL was.

At Celtic, those 'we never stop' tactics perfectly suited the league. In effect it wasn't even that gung-ho, at least not after the first half season when the players properly learnt the system, because they still defended solidly, they just usually did it much higher up the pitch.

What you eventually saw was a team who's relentlessness with and without the ball suffocated opponents so thoroughly that in most games the best they could muster was a couple of chances from set pieces. I mean Celtic are usually dominant whichever manager, but this was something else.

That won't quite be the case in the Premier League, so it looks like he's adjusting his tactics accordingly and rightly so. I still think he'll want the ball to move quicker than it has the first two games, and for us to be more aggressive in certain situations, but I'm not expecting the full 1000-miles-an-hour, balls to the wall, never stop approach of Celtic.
 
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