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Management Levy / ENIC
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The start of the Demise. But ‘who do you drop was the defence?’.
5 years later & enic/levy still making the same mistakes. Only 2 good CBs & then acting hard done by when they inevitably get injured/suspended. Only 1 real creative CM then more hard luck stories when he gets injured. Lose kane & No proper striker either so we are relying heavily on just son who goes away in January.
The levy/enic fans have been wrong for 5 years now. Fair play to their loyalty to enic & levy. I don’t get it though.
#1 rant......like it
I can’t think of a time city stopped us winning anything? Now if we were Liverpool then yes, they have a good case!
Yes Chelsea & city replaced United, Liverpool & Woolwich who all regressed. Liverpool have now swapped with Chelsea.
Also Woolwich have won quite a few cups so unless the enic fans are saying we can’t expect to match them as they are better then we could have done better.
The problem is that Levy, The Board and Rednapp had telephonic conversations with the alleged unlicensed agent. The agent allegedly appeared on a list of agents that were not sanctioned and clubs were requested to not have dealings with them.
Most is here say but knowing Levy, the same man who wanted to furlough employees during covid, while getting a low interest lifeline on loans, I wouldn't put anything past him.
Apologies. At least we know your Spelling is better than your Reasoning.
So the managers levy chooses & hires? Surely he is responsible for the managers who failed as you put it? & if the players weren’t good enough to win it then it comes back down to the players we sign.
I think levy/enic clearly put the focus on CL qualification.
Also it goes against the argument we don’t spend enough to win cups which I think is generous of you. I think there’s some confused arguing coming from levy/enic fans. Levy has supplied the HC & players to win Cups but we can’t compete with city & Chelsea’s spending.
Do you expect us to win a cup this year with this squad & HC. It’s a clear ‘no’ from me. So surely that falls on the owner. Unless you think the players & HC have failed if they don’t win a cup which I think is extremely harsh.
I do think the players, HC & bad luck are factors too. They need to shoulder some blame but the biggest factor & blame clearly goes to levy/enic. How many seasons would you have realistically expected us to win a cup with the squad & manager in charge? Not many! & that stems from the top where their seems to be no mentality for trophies & no prioritising it. Even sacking your well known trophies winning manager just before a final for Ryan mason even though you got him in to win a trophy. What a mess!
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Defoe at the time had a year left on his contract, Andrew I'm assuming would have been telling him to stay put and not to sign and wait until he's on a free so the following year both would get a huge signing on bonus which wasn't in anyone's interests apart from his own.
What actually happened is that Defoe used another agent to get out of Tottenham in a deal which made sense to all parties, assuming that Mitchell Thomas (the non registered agent) would have been happy to take a lower cut of the deal.
The likelihood was that us, Portsmouth, Redknapp, Levy were all happy to do a deal that suited all parties and in turn screw Defoe's agent, Andrew's argument is that everyone knew about Thomas being non registered but did the deal anyway however Andrew couldn't prove that everyone knew that so the FA ok'd it.
It's a load of noise really, basically journo trying to get some cheap engagement and clicks on a hot topic and doing his best to shit stir hence dragging Andrew in front of the media to give credence to his story, been dealt with already so nothing will happen.
Yeah I agree about levy being £££ obsessed, power hungry & those are his number 1 priorities! Hence top 4 being our trophy!
I agree about him ignoring the reality of what it takes to be winners, & thinking he can do it on the cheap & that he is some sort of genius. A lot to do with ego so he can rub it in other rich chairman’s faces etc. & his stubbornness & doubling down on his “winning on the cheap model” is costing us big time! Can’t see it changing sadly!
We have though, no matter how much you try and change history, since ENIC have came in we have improved year on year for the majority, to deny that is just basically not accepting reality.
You claim to be a spurs fan, yet can't spell WHL properly, ok.
Reasoning?
You have posted a mountain of shit and have such a lack of self awareness you then talk about 'reasoning'. Fuck me!!
You and a lot of your fellow shit talkers remind me of this quote quite often...
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt
When it's multiple managers (including 2 who win at every other club they managed), multiple teams, and multiple occasions, I think it's fair to say the problem lies elsewhere.
Since Levy and Lewis took control, we've entered into some 85 domestic and European competitions........... . And won 1
And that was over fifteen years ago.
If Levy had prioritised the football team over non football related activities and profit, every manager would have had a stronger squad and the mentality to push that extra yard would have been firmer.
When your CEO wallows in his own piss crying about how winning is hard, when he he should be emphasising that winning is the foremost priority of the football club, it's not surprising the team never quite gets over the line.
Conte was Right
Sample base of over 20 years & it’s all the different managers & players fault! The very same managers levy picks. Blaming the staff & not the people at the top for over 20 years of failure is naive & foolish.
I would understand if enic had only been here a few years. But over 20 years!!
As you say, levy & ENIC have a losers mentality so no wonder we don’t win things!
I'm assuming this is the nominated thread for the agentgate affair?
I just saw cunt1 and cunt2 on Talksport.
It seems clear to me, we have Cunt1 (andrew) acting hard done by because his client cut him out and Cunt2 (Lawton) clearly trying to create a storm over a 15 year old deal that wasn't technically banned at that point. Being advised/requested not to use an agent isn't the same as being banned/prevented.
First point here, is that Sky Andrew is a massive cuntfuck that has been stitching clubs up for decades telling his players to run their contracts down and leave for free. Defoe clearly didn't want to be behind Keane and Berbatov then, so he did the right thing and told Andrew to fuck off as he wanted to play football.
Second point, is how bias is Lawton? What team does he support? What's his angle here? There's no way on fucking earth is this the only time it's happened in football in the last 15 years, so why is he singling this one out? Especially as the FA state they were aware at the time.
Perhaps the FA, who are in charge of the national team, wanted their striker to play football so allowed it to happen to expedite the deal.
I just saw cunt1 and cunt2 on Talksport.
It seems clear to me, we have Cunt1 (andrew) acting hard done by because his client cut him out and Cunt2 (Lawton) clearly trying to create a storm over a 15 year old deal that wasn't technically banned at that point. Being advised/requested not to use an agent isn't the same as being banned/prevented.
First point here, is that Sky Andrew is a massive cuntfuck that has been stitching clubs up for decades telling his players to run their contracts down and leave for free. Defoe clearly didn't want to be behind Keane and Berbatov then, so he did the right thing and told Andrew to fuck off as he wanted to play football.
Second point, is how bias is Lawton? What team does he support? What's his angle here? There's no way on fucking earth is this the only time it's happened in football in the last 15 years, so why is he singling this one out? Especially as the FA state they were aware at the time.
Perhaps the FA, who are in charge of the national team, wanted their striker to play football so allowed it to happen to expedite the deal.
There are those that believe Paul Mitchell left because of Levy. I’ve posted a link to Gab Marcotti (very good football journalist) saying he heard it was Pochettino who the problem was with, as Poch didn’t want to work under a DOF.
Here’s a link to him repeating that this week, saying this came from someone well connected at the club. Starts about 2m in.
View: https://youtu.be/hBLVTQ7SrTI?si=oD_nOKa5Wb0DufgN
Here’s a link to him repeating that this week, saying this came from someone well connected at the club. Starts about 2m in.
View: https://youtu.be/hBLVTQ7SrTI?si=oD_nOKa5Wb0DufgN
Nice summary mate as makes sense to what was basically just a bunch of words falling out of people mouths in a studio, only part that I could follow was when Jordon got involved.
The fact that a bunch of QC's sat in a room and "dealt with it" I would have thought this would have been the conclusion. The fact that they (jorno + Andrew) don't know what was dealt with because it's been kept in-house (maybe this is because there's a legally binding agreement to not disclose or The FA fucked up and should have taken this further) is the issue, isn't it? The story should be "Agent wants to know what was discussed in meeting".
I don't want to follow suit with other fans defending their Clubs over something they did wrong, but feel this is as you say just noise.
The FA trying to enforce rules from 15 years ago on using an unlicensed agent would be pretty difficult, given they in the intervening period changed their rules to allow agents to work without achieving their licence....
Worth noting that Sky Andrew was Sol Campbell's agent at the time who instructed him to do exactly that so he can go fuck himself as far as I'm concerned.