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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024

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Starks said:
I think we make a lot of silly fouls. Becausr we're very high energy, high pressure, try and win the ball back at all costs when we lose it type of team. I get that.

But it just seems we're punished more because of it. As if all of our fouls are considered professional fouls and therefore worthy of yellows.

Again, could be Spurs bias. But let's take an extra look at the weekend game. Everton. Pretty physical team. I would bet that Everton make plenty of fouls throughout the game, some by the same player who goes unpunished, but the moment we commit a foul, that's probably no worse than some Everton have made throughout the game, we'll be carded for it. Everton will then continue to foul us and to unpunished until it's too late in the game to likely make a difference
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I personally think VAR creates a big inconsistency in the game. This season the refs have been apparently told to let the game flow (ie be lenient) so for the first 20-30 mins most games consist of our players getting the shit kicked out of with limited protection.

Later in the game we start to react and at that point the refs and VAR show up so it looks like we get treated worse and you end up with situations where by opposition players can commit 6 fouls without even a yellow.

The other aspect is where VAR intervenes. Romero got sent off for a follow through even though he won the ball (fair enough), Arse player does the same thing and nothing no VAR to be seen, Ruben Dias goes high footed on Skipp again nothing. It’s like VAR is asleep and wakes up from time to time.

In short it feels like the consistency is all over the shop. I don’t think it’s mostly the refs fault though, I think it’s the combination of refs plus VaR and the grey areas inbetween.
 
Tomo said:
I personally think VAR creates a big inconsistency in the game. This season the refs have been apparently told to let the game flow (ie be lenient) so for the first 20-30 mins most games consist of our players getting the shit kicked out of with limited protection.

Later in the game we start to react and at that point the refs and VAR show up so it looks like we get treated worse and you end up with situations where by opposition players can commit 6 fouls without even a yellow.

The other aspect is where VAR intervenes. Romero got sent off for a follow through even though he won the ball (fair enough), Arse player does the same thing and nothing no VAR to be seen, Ruben Dias goes high footed on Skipp again nothing. It’s like VAR is asleep and wakes up from time to time.

In short it feels like the consistency is all over the shop. I don’t think it’s mostly the refs fault though, I think it’s the combination of refs plus VaR and the grey areas inbetween.
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Was Gvardiol IIRC? but yep, that would 100% be red if it was Romero.
 
TheSpurEst said:
But when did Udogie did shoulder barge? If I remember correctly it was when he was spurting back to help to neutralize counter-attack.

I mean I am trying to see some logic and mechanics.
Saying that every single referee is out to fuck over Spurs or that we are systematically and purposefully being targeted ... sorry, but it hurts my intelligence. Who is orchestrating that then? Reptiles? Alien overlords? Illuminati?

And you do understand that someone could well list decisions that have gone our way and ask why player X or Y was not punished and suggest that this is just continuation of Spurs-favoring that was most obviously displayed in Liverpool game (and add to that this Haaland - Grealish situation when game was stopped in end of extra time with Grealish behind our lines; were the alien overlords taking toilet break then ? :D )
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Doesn't have to be by design to be true.

Objectively we are the most fouled team in the league - and that's only the ones that actually get called - but we are nowhere near the top for cards received by our opponents.

Conte used to say we don't get respect from officials and it could be as simple as the officials still adjusting to the way we play compared to last season and also the fact that we have a bunch of players they don't know yet. Kane used to get great whistles because he had that respect from officials. Son has never got the respect he's due in this league. They don't really know Udogie, VDV, Vicario etc and they actively look for Romero now.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Doesn't have to be by design to be true.

Objectively we are the most fouled team in the league - and that's only the ones that actually get called - but we are nowhere near the top for cards received by our opponents.

Conte used to say we don't get respect from officials and it could be as simple as the officials still adjusting to the way we play compared to last season and also the fact that we have a bunch of players they don't know yet. Kane used to get great whistles because he had that respect from officials. Son has never got the respect he's due in this league. They don't really know Udogie, VDV, Vicario etc and they actively look for Romero now.
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OK, heard everything now.
Going back to whiny Conte, and suggesting that officials have to "get to know players" instead of rules of the game :D . Brilliant.
 
TheSpurEst said:
OK, heard everything now.
Going back to whiny Conte, and suggesting that officials have to "get to know players" instead of rules of the game :D . Brilliant.
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You think officials don't get to learn player's tendencies? they scout players the same way that teams do. If they don't know players they don't know how to ref them.

Asd for the rules/laws? they interpret those however they fell like it on the day.
 
Pathfinder said:
There is no way Spurs would enter February with only Skipp and Lo Celso (who's injury prone) as their only regular CM at their disposal.
Plus Kulusevski.
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Going into Feb Bentancur and Maddison will be back. Mali prob not going far in AFCON either so Bissouma will be back too.

That would give us:

Bissouma
Skipp
Bentancur
Maddison
Kulusevski
GLC

That's plenty. Although, I'm guessing that GLC will be off in January. I'd also guess we pick up a CM in January as well.
 
TottsAmazeballs said:
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If we can get close to matching their wages it's a no-brainer. They just don't have the clout they used to.

"Jean-Clair, would you like to work with Macguire or.."
"'Or'. Final answer."
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I think unfortunately your Spurs tinted glasses are impairing you slightly mate.

Yanited are always going to boast significant pulling power no matter how shit they are, once they’re willing to put up the cash of course.

Our pulling power has waned significantly since it peaked around 17/18-18/19 I would say, when we were a consistent Champions League Club, consistently challenging for trophies, the new shiny stadium, peak Poch etc etc.
We have a road ahead before we reach them levels of pulling power again, but hopefully we get there.
 
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