Agree, I think others in their squad are just more convincing by now, be that Openda (I like him) or even Sesko and Poulsen, depending on the formation they are playing.Openda is great and Werner is not good.
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Agree, I think others in their squad are just more convincing by now, be that Openda (I like him) or even Sesko and Poulsen, depending on the formation they are playing.Openda is great and Werner is not good.
Bonus point for thatNot to mention the Mancs for missing out on him.
If he comes in and scores minimum 5, I say we have a referendum on here for you to change your username to Timo.Played as left wing forward and striker. He has some similarities to Son.
So in theory competition for two spots.
I've spoken with a few pals of mine in - one is a Union fan, two support Dortmund and the other is a Kaiserslautern aficionado who tells me every single time we chat ball together that we should've signed Djorkaeff of them instead of letting friggin Bolton have him
Anyway...all told me we're getting a super player, who works hard for the team, who has good leadership qualities, who knows how to score & pass. Apparently a pretty decent, well-educated chap too. They'd all sign him on the spot for their respective club.
They said German fans knew Chelsea was always the wrong move for him...they hate the Chavs as much as we do! Also said he's been unlucky with injuries & illness since he moved back to Deutschland, but when fit he's super fit. His club, RB Leipzig, are also going younger & younger and they wanna take Bayern's spot as the big name in German football but also with international audiences, so they're favouring foreign players over Germans.
See what happens but best of luck to the lad. Let's back him from minute one despite his Chavs past.
Always remember him being constantly offside .he is very quick.Liverpool wanted him too didn’t they, but as usual, Chelsea did their thing. That was at a time when Liverpool were scouting well using data under Edwards so Werner must tick some of those boxes. Trouble is, the PL record but I didn’t really pay enough attention to him or really watch him at Chelsea. So it’s hard to know really. It’s low risk though.
You mean like Porro, Udogie, Bentancur, Sarr, Kulusevski, Bissouma, VDV, Romero, Vicario...
Those kind of ambitious, targeted signings? The ones that fit the system like a glove and, when fit, had us deservedly top of the table?
We've been targeting these type of signing for a while now, highly technical, highly talented players, with the right mentality. We've finally got a manager that utilise those attributes.
Look at that list I've just put up and tell me that we won't have at least 5 of them up there in the 'elite' for their roles. I'd go as far as 7 personally.
I get the feeling your idea of ambitious is expensive. If I'm wrong then forgive me, but all I'm seeing are ambitious signings there. What I think pushes many people's buttons is that they're not coming fast enough. That I can understand, we're all impatient for the finished product and the promise of silverware. I'd rather we took our time to get the right signings though, regardless of the price.
Timo Werners finishing is as bad as Harvertz
waste of money
Just a stopgap till we get someone better in the summer. Ange might get him playingTimo Werners finishing is as bad as Harvertz
waste of money
Salah wasn't "backing the manager", Klopp wanted Brandt I believe, Salah was an Edwards buy.Of your list I'd say that Romero and Porro was in what I'd class as "backing the manager". In that yes they are expensive, but they're recognised excellent talents who could be just as likely to sign for other top teams in the prem.
Romero was Serie A defender of the year and porro was one of the most exciting wing backs in Europe.
The rest is outstanding scouting to identify opportunitistic good value purchases of talent that wasn't so widely recognised. This is just as important but you need both, and ultimately the acquisition of recognised talents is the difference between top 6 and winning the league or a cup.
Some examples of backing the manager at a critical moment at other clubs include:
Liverpool:
- Virgil van dijk
- Fabinho
- Alison
- Luis Diaz
- Firmino
- Salah
Woolwich:
- Declan Rice
- Gabriel Jesus (big wages)
- Thomas Partey (as a player)
- Trossard
- potentially Ivan toney to come??
We only paying his wages for the loan period though, if he works out and we sign then that's great, of not it back to RBL with him (like a try before you buy)Timo Werners finishing is as bad as Harvertz
waste of money
I think he replaces Richy when Son is back.Is Werner an automatic starter? Does he work on the left while Son is gone and does he work on the right when Son is back? I’m not against the loan and having options is a good thing. The lad can score a goal so definetly not bad to have on the bench either
Of your list I'd say that Romero and Porro was in what I'd class as "backing the manager". In that yes they are expensive, but they're recognised excellent talents who could be just as likely to sign for other top teams in the prem.
Romero was Serie A defender of the year and porro was one of the most exciting wing backs in Europe.
The rest is outstanding scouting to identify opportunitistic good value purchases of talent that wasn't so widely recognised. This is just as important but you need both, and ultimately the acquisition of recognised talents is the difference between top 6 and winning the league or a cup.
Some examples of backing the manager at a critical moment at other clubs include:
Liverpool:
- Virgil van dijk
- Fabinho
- Alison
- Luis Diaz
- Firmino
- Salah
Woolwich:
- Declan Rice
- Gabriel Jesus (big wages)
- Thomas Partey (as a player)
- Trossard
- potentially Ivan toney to come??
Yeah I get yout point, which is partly valid. Peak Lewa would've scored buckets in the PL, I'm sure of that. As for Sancho, if his attitude was that of a real pro athlete and he didn't play for one of the shittest United teams of all time, I bet he'd fare a hell of a lot better.Considering the laughing stock Kane and Lewandowski make of the Bundesliga, I’m not surprised German football fans think Werner is decent.
A genuine top class striker over there is a 2 in 1 goalscorer. That lot thought Sancho was the bee’s knees too, problem is England is different.
Salah wasn't "backing the manager", Klopp wanted Brandt I believe, Salah was an Edwards buy.
No, I am sure this was planned months in advance and was data driven .Timo Werner seems to have come out of nowhere. Cover for Son and Veliz I guess? Doubt we'd look to make it perm.
But that's what a scouting team is for. They still paid a premium to get a player who they felt would be perfect in klopps system, and they were right