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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024

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Thanks for the replies and Shadydan Shadydan too. Isn't it as advantageous to have them around though and understand the processes and mentality of the team that bought them? Give them an attainable goal to be on the bench then some minutes then some starts etc? I mean, I know Kane went on plenty of loans and it appears to work so I don't doubt the system but surely there are downsides too?

Depends on the player and what stage they are of their development though - not everyone is the same. Some players still need to mature and a year of men's football would do wonders for them, some players just aren't ready to move and need a year of academy football for example, everyone's situation is different.
 
Depends on the player and what stage they are of their development though - not everyone is the same. Some players still need to mature and a year of men's football would do wonders for them, some players just aren't ready to move and need a year of academy football for example, everyone's situation is different.
Excellent reply. Thanks so much for the clarification...I wondered if I was being daft in not getting it...I am🤣
 
I've never really understood the sign someone, loan them back option. Can anyone explain its advantages?

Also gets you ahead of the queue because the selling club may not plan to sell a player yet if they don't have a replacement or if they are still chasing goals themselves. You let the player stay it gives them more time to develop for you, means you pay a lower price than if they were more developed, and the selling club has more time to find a replacement and the funds already in place.
 
Thanks for the replies and Shadydan Shadydan too. Isn't it as advantageous to have them around though and understand the processes and mentality of the team that bought them? Give them an attainable goal to be on the bench then some minutes then some starts etc? I mean, I know Kane went on plenty of loans and it appears to work so I don't doubt the system but surely there are downsides too?

I think the fact they'd be typically going back on loan to the club they were signed from, they'd be continuing to get minutes and it probably even sweetens the deal abit.

Back in pre season with more mens minutes under their belt and ready to learn the processes and get to the required level over a 2 month period.

Downsides to loans are that they don't get minutes. As we've seen with Scarlett this season. But that process is different to signing a promising youngster and loaning them back out to their club (Like we did with Dele)

For example if we were to sign say, Roony Bardghji. He probably wouldnt get much game time the second half of the season. We're not in Europe and our attacking options are stacked with trusted Ange players. He stays on loan at Copenhagen. Continues to get competitive minute and develops further, back in pre season to then be seen and fight for his place over the summer.

Games is always better for development than training.
 
Genuinely very good negotiating - refused to accept until we got Dragusin. Makes you wonder if we were talking with Bayern in the background.


View: https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1745387741943140512?s=46

"Bayern will go for new RB as next top target"

:dohertyshrug:
 

I'd love to see us sign Wharton and/or Hackney...or any other young Englishman with plenty upside. We used to be pretty good at that. Keep them in the Champo for another full season so they keep learning the ropes, then loan them to a promoted team or a Fulham/Everton/Palace type so they get an intro to the PL without the added pressure of playing for a top 4 side from the off.

As for Frendrup - decent player, can pass, loves a tackle, but still very raw. I'd much rather we bring in one of the English lads.

Cristante is a player I've always liked. He can do it all as a MF, without being brilliant at one particular thing...very much a Jack of all trades, master of none type. Covers a lot of ground cause he's clever & has the engine, can pass, can shoot, turns up in big matches...he's like Bentancur basically. The one thing I'd worry about is, has he got the muscles for the PL. But then I thought the same of Roddy and he's handled it just fine.

If I had to pick, I'd go with one of the young Brits and Cristante, but in an ideal world we'd sign Wharton or Hackney + another English lad with more experience of the PL eg Gallagher, Eze, Olise...
 

View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1745389793830121747

TBH with you as much as this is funny, Tuchel does love the 5-2-3 formation and was successful with it at Chelsea, if that's the case then I can see Dier sit in the centre of a back 3 with Kim Min Jae and Upemacano either side of him, Davies and Mazraoui as wing backs as well.

You don't even need an attacking mid because Kane will just play the False 9 role and create for Sane/Musiala/Koman/Gnabry and the wing backs.

Dier can also play as a 6 in that formation and push up into midfield, let's see what Tuchel does because that's exactly how he set Chelsea up when they won the CL.

I've loved Eric since that last-minute winner against spam on his debut. He's a good bloke.

I like very much that he's getting a swan-song.
 
Imagine THIS could be our strongest line-up after the window....

1
Vicario
2
Porro
3
Romero
4
VDVDragusin
5
Udogie
6
BissoumaSarr
7
Bentancur
8
Kulusevski
9
Maddison
10
Son
11
WernerRichie
lineup code
[lineup]
Vicario
Porro Romero VDV/Dragusin Udogie

Bissouma/Sarr Bentancur

 Kulusevski Maddison Son

Werner/Richie
[/lineup]

Subs: Forster, Royal, Dragusin, Davies, Sarr, Skipp/Hoijberg, Lo Celso Solomon/Johnson, Richie/Veliz

UNREAL!!
Yeahhhhhh!!!

With 14 players on the pitch we'll be unbeatable.
 
I'd love to see us sign Wharton and/or Hackney...or any other young Englishman with plenty upside. We used to be pretty good at that. Keep them in the Champo for another full season so they keep learning the ropes, then loan them to a promoted team or a Fulham/Everton/Palace type so they get an intro to the PL without the added pressure of playing for a top 4 side from the off.

As for Frendrup - decent player, can pass, loves a tackle, but still very raw. I'd much rather we bring in one of the English lads.

Cristante is a player I've always liked. He can do it all as a MF, without being brilliant at one particular thing...very much a Jack of all trades, master of none type. Covers a lot of ground cause he's clever & has the engine, can pass, can shoot, turns up in big matches...he's like Bentancur basically. The one thing I'd worry about is, has he got the muscles for the PL. But then I thought the same of Roddy and he's handled it just fine.

If I had to pick, I'd go with one of the young Brits and Cristante, but in an ideal world we'd sign Wharton or Hackney + another English lad with more experience of the PL eg Gallagher, Eze, Olise...

Hackney is 21 and tbh looks ready for us now imo.

Wharton staying on loan at 19 makes sense but it's not long before he's ready if he isn't already.

Frendrup and Christante came off like random names thrown out by their agents to try and earn some money from a January move.

Vermeeren I could see the club looking at very seriously. There are clubs like woolwich and chavski that would likely be interested and able to bid more in normal circumstances but are currently hindered by FFP. We know that this club loves an opportunistic buy.
 
I'd love to see us sign Wharton and/or Hackney...or any other young Englishman with plenty upside. We used to be pretty good at that. Keep them in the Champo for another full season so they keep learning the ropes, then loan them to a promoted team or a Fulham/Everton/Palace type so they get an intro to the PL without the added pressure of playing for a top 4 side from the off.

As for Frendrup - decent player, can pass, loves a tackle, but still very raw. I'd much rather we bring in one of the English lads.

Cristante is a player I've always liked. He can do it all as a MF, without being brilliant at one particular thing...very much a Jack of all trades, master of none type. Covers a lot of ground cause he's clever & has the engine, can pass, can shoot, turns up in big matches...he's like Bentancur basically. The one thing I'd worry about is, has he got the muscles for the PL. But then I thought the same of Roddy and he's handled it just fine.

If I had to pick, I'd go with one of the young Brits and Cristante, but in an ideal world we'd sign Wharton or Hackney + another English lad with more experience of the PL eg Gallagher, Eze, Olise...
Looking at how Jack Clarke has been doing since leaving us, the problem is either our player development or our patience.
 
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