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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113

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I've only just read this:

In my experience, the true belief comes when you’ve got the majority of the squad and staff [to a point] where if I didn’t turn up, they would still go about things in the same way. I don’t think we’re at the majority yet.

So a fair amount of them don't have faith. There are two players who seem to and that's Romero, the World Cup winner, and his compadre, VDV. They're playing the aggressive game. We need to recruit others like them if this is going to work. The ones who aren't buying in (including the coaching staff) need to go.

Or we sack Ange and hope yet another manager can come in and save us before they're sacked. Rinse repeat. The powers that be need to think hard on this one and resist being swayed by the current mood.

REALLY interesting line to me in that was:


That didn't feel like a throwaway line. Question is, which staff are feeling like they have the luxury of not buying in? If they have been here since before Ange, get them out the door rapid.
 
Been thinking about comments today.

More importantly, how others react to people such as myself that want him gone.

There's nothing wrong with me or those who share my opinion. We just have a lot of experience of shit managers at Spurs and can see the signs a mile away.
 
Apologies for ruining your happy clappy, everything is always awesome, Ange wank fest. I'm venting because I've not been this angry at a Spurs side since the dark days of AVB.

You can put me on ignore if you want and carry on pretending he's the greatest manager in the entire universe. In the meantime I'll post whatever the fuck I like thanks.
I don’t put anyone on ignore. I’m certainly not a happy clapper but every single post lately is a personal dig at the manager. Fair enough you don’t like him but not every one has to be derogatory you fucking ugly cunt 🤷‍♂️
 
Fully understand that team improvements and progression are not always a linear process and the trajectory can go up or down. But in most situations like this I would always expect things to be messy at the start and then show clear lines of improvement. How this has happened in the opposite way is hard to comprehend.

At the beginning of the process there might be players not up to it in training or on the pitch, players that don’t or can’t get it, the manager’s message not sinking in or the coaching not achieving what it should. At some point, sooner rather than later we would hope, we would expect to see some green shoots, some steady improvement and signs of real progress. For whatever reason it has happened the other way around.

The difficulty I have is because going out of the cups so early, essentially playing one game a week, should have at least allowed the principles of what was trying to be achieved to become embedded and for them to be visible to us fans, albeit with some of the jigsaw pieces missing. I’m really not seeing it.

Sticking my neck out here, but I’m fine to give him the chance of continuing and seeing if he really has got what is needed and can actually turn things around. My worry is that with the team buggering off to Australia at the end of the season, then the Euros and holidays etc he will have little if any time to instil his methods to even any marquee signings (lol) let alone any of the current crop who remain.

Winning is hard.
 
We've got 3 good centre backs and 2 solid wing backs when fit. We should at least give 532 a go.

But we wont because he doesnt know how to change his style
and 0 good wide forwards, yet we use 2 and play a system that they become the focal point in when it comes to attacking.
--------------------------vic-----------------------------
------------romero---drag------VDV----------------
porro--------------biss/bent--------------------dog
---------------sarr------------mad/gio--------------
----------------rich--------son/kulu/johnson

far more solid than what we are watching. should create chances for the front 2 that side too. drag massively helps with set piece issues.
 
That's right. Everybody gets a voice here. There's no right or wrong, just debate and opinions. Be fucking boring if we all just agreed.
Totally agree and that’s what forums are for. I’m just in a cunt of a mood like us all but don’t have to get personal in every post. There’s people at the club that I don’t think should be there and are poor players but not every post is constantly slaughtering them.
 
and 0 good wide forwards, yet we use 2 and play a system that they become the focal point in when it comes to attacking.
--------------------------vic-----------------------------
------------romero---drag------VDV----------------
porro--------------biss/bent--------------------dog
---------------sarr------------mad/gio--------------
----------------rich--------son/kulu/johnson

far more solid than what we are watching. should create chances for the front 2 that side too. drag massively helps with set piece issues.
Mate, that's not who we are.

We are a team that's really easy to beat now everyone know's who we are. Mate.
 
But in most situations like this I would always expect things to be messy at the start and then show clear lines of improvement. How this has happened in the opposite way is hard to comprehend.
We were just found out. Deep block and counter is how to beat us.

If this system is to work we need to create and take early chances to get the other team coming forward.

Therefore giving us more space.

We seem out of ideas on how to do this. Or too afraid.

We need better quality at both wings, someone who can beat their man with good technical ability, vision, and courage to find the pass/cross.

A solid DM also to cover the back 4.

Oh, and a new striker.
 
First post here, it was last night that inspired me to sign up. I’m really worried about Ange and his tactics and it looks like the early enthusiasm may have been misplaced. Hope I’m wrong but I never wanted him in the first place.
 
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