Well ok- you are entitled to your opinion. I’m just saying without a radical rethink and change of tack, Ange is toast.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Appreciate it mate
Unfortunately, we have the same fear. But I’m working on the basis that what Ange needs is less than what Jose and Conte need.
I could be wrong but I’m ok with seeing it out to find out. Not least because blaming and sacking another manager is just too easy for them to pass the buck again.
Rather have 2 years of something than 2 years of nothing.
This is true, no European football this year, and out of the cups early again.
There has been enough time to, get his ideas across and have them set up better than what we are seeing.
But repeating the experiment of sacking a manager, blaming it all on him, appointing a new one claiming he's the messiah...then sacking him after xx months and back to square one...that's sensible?
Seems to me we've been doing just that for nearly TWENTY FIVE friggin years and yeah it's obviously worked such a treat...
I'm really not sure beating Burnley and/or Sheff Utd tells us much. Mason won games like that. The last few were the time to make a statement and we've been humiliated. Today really could have been a 6 or 7 shellacking if they hadnt eased up.
I hope we can turn it around too because I really don’t want to lose this core of players we have (mostly VdV, Romero, Udogie, Porro, Sarr, Vicario). But I don’t want to hang on so long that happens too.
Good luck with your hoping and we’ll just have to see how it all plays out.
This, my friends, is a thread-winning kinda post.
it’s not the same experiment with different managers
There’s a competition for that on here?
Mate, we tend to agree on our view....I think.
Statenent - never possible. I am.too hungry to dissect but that's unrealistic.
It's been disappointing but I knew we would lose all the 3 games.
We need 6 points and the summer..
The players lost their nerve with that Fulham game after getting high on their own farts when we beat Villa. The pressure was applied and they bottled it.
Let's just finish 5th, clear our heads and attack next season properly.
You'll give him the entirety?
So when we get 2 points from our first 10, will you still give him that time?
We're currently level on points with where we finished last season. We're SO bad right now I could see us losing all our remaining games.
If that happened we will have accumulated the same points, conceded more goals and potentially scored less too.
The only difference between this and last season is Newcastle, Brighton and United all being worse. 2 of them have a good excuse too.
If that happened we will have accumulated the same points, conceded more goals and potentially scored less too.
The only difference between this and last season is Newcastle, Brighton and United all being worse. 2 of them have a good excuse too.
Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world...and have been for donkeys' years.
They have one of the all-time greats at the helm. Carlo has seen it all.
Their squad is full of A-listers. Players with incredible footy IQ, tekkers, stamina. Players who've been used to "win every game or get fucked" since the first day they donned the legendary all-white kit.
Money is zero issue...and they have a chairman who understands that a football club is there to win football matches. And competitions. Lots of them. Before anything else. And he does what needs to be done to get there.
Real Madrid is a culture in itself. You could pretty much say the same about Liverpool, City since Abu Dhabi, Utd pre Glazers, Juve, Milan x 2, Bayern...
Blaming our shocking form and season all (or most of it) on Ange is just lazy and so not doing the club a solid.
Fucking bingo
And thank you. We should pin this post to the top of the forum to remind people what we are trying to achieve here.
I mean we’ve seen calls for Poch and Tuchel ffs. Can’t people use their memories?
We got figured out in the Fulham game, and now everyone knows the template we're stuffed. It's that easy. The rest of the league have a cheat code that renders Flangeball utterly useless.
You say all this stuff about RM and then make a completely unrelated point- unless it’s that we aren’t RM. My point was that every club, no matter how many resources they have, have to play different tactics sometimes, or they lose.
I’d rather Ange leave than throw all the players under the bus. I think hiring managers who do that is inherently part of our problem.
ok yeh i agree with that but that's pretty bog standard and self explainitory.
If teams like Stoke who were in the league for a long time adopting long ball/direct tactics suddenly decided to play another tactic (say Anges high line and passing from the back). You think they would have had anywhere near the 'success' they had? they would have had exactly the same set of players and would have undoubtedly got relegated much sooner.
Tactics are fucking crititical and its odd you downplay them the way you do.