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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
thinktank said:
What he said was right.

And he was never given the players he needed for his very - renowned - strict system.

Instead of Bastoni he was given Lenglet ffs.

Should never have agreed to come here to work under a baldcunt such as baclcunt.

#ConteWasRight
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Bastoni wanted to stay at Inter. Conte was given a list of young cb's to sign he did not want anyone on the list. He wanted experience the only person to convince him otherwise was the InterPresident.
 
manmountainbutters said:
It's an emotional reaction. Supporters cheering for the opposition in the stadium could make any manager wonder wtf kind of shitshow the club is.

He came across poorly with his response to the "proportion" question. Nothing wrong with the question at all.

Hopefully he gets backed and then he's got 10-15 games to show us a good team again
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There was no "cheering for the opposition", I wouldn't have even minded if there was, Sky managed to pick out two blokes making a joke by doing the poznan. God forbid people have fun...
 
manmountainbutters said:
For 10 games or so at the end of 21-22 we were the best or thereabouts team in the Prem under Conte. Much more emphatically so than under the first 10 games of Ange this season. And the football was decent. 22-23 isn't representative of Conte's career
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we lost against Brighton in the last 10 games of that season under conte, and drew one.
we were undefeated in the first 10 games this season, and drew two

so not sure how your statement is correct if we picked up more points in the opening 10 games
 
Jarritos said:
Oh Ange, this is case study on how you simply can not pick the narrative surrounding the game, you can only pick the squad mate.

Ange is our manager and his sole focus is to win, as it should be however yesterday was a once in a blue moon situation for the FANS. He is not a fan so yes, in his view it is "irrelevant" for squad selection, tactics etc, but the NARRATIVE is not irrelevant and this is where he went wrong.

He desperately tried to change the narrative having already failed to do so for the NLD, so he didn't learn his lesson. It is hilarious for a manger all season long to say that our style of play is what will determine our progress (not even table position) then suddenly stake it on our ability to beat Man City. He said this directly. Well Ange, when we're good, we beat city, when we're shit, we beat city, when we're meh, we beat city. We are Man City's boogey team. Did he even realise that it was under his management that we conceded our first goal at home to City since our new stadium was built? His alternate view was BS to begin with but because he was so desperate to eliminate the aspect of the North London rivalry, he tried to make it something it simply never was. Worse yet, because he believed so much in his own delusional narrative, it's made him lash out at the club and fans.

One thing that stood out to me in the post match press conference was his admission of the fans influence. He said the FANS got us extra time goals in the past, which is actually the most humble thing I've heard from him so far as manager. So for him to then proceed to call the fanbase "fragile" because of the anti Woolwich chants and apparent lack of support shows a massive contradiction in beliefs when you bare in mind what he's said all season long about the importance of the supporters free will to believe what they want - especially when things were going well and some were saying we could be title challengers. He effectively blamed the fans for the loss yesterday even if he didn't have the bollocks to directly say it.

And the final oddity which others have already pointed out is his sudden turn on team selection and tactics for THIS game. He finally started all three of our CBs together, shifted one to left-back, completely changed our shape out of possession with a prime Brighton level mid-block which was a masterstroke and completely stifled City in the first half. He even went with a false number 9 setup during attack with fucking Sarr being the furthest forward to press the ball. Call me cynical but this is Ange's most egotistical move as of yet. He had so much contempt for the narrative that we should lose that he FINALLY CHANGED TACTICS. He's sat back and watched us get battered week in week out with the same shite set-up but yesterday was the day he re-imagined the squad. No one can deny that those tactics and squad selection were out of character.

I change when I want to change and if think i'm going to throw this away for your benefit then you'll see the biggest change yet!

The fact that he is only willing to adapt the squad tactically out of contempt for the noise surrounding a match makes me doubt his composure. We could have had this set up (and it was a rather good one) against Woolwich (who play similar football to City), against Newcastle etc. His ego has leaked onto the pitch. He's actually lucky it's the end of the season because everyone can fuck off and calm down.
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That lot in bold hits the middle of the bullseye; especially this bit:
completely changed our shape out of possession with a prime Brighton level mid-block which was a masterstroke and completely stifled City in the first half. He even went with a false number 9 setup during attack with fucking Sarr being the furthest forward to press the ball. Call me cynical but this is Ange's most egotistical move as of yet. He had so much contempt for the narrative that we should lose that he FINALLY CHANGED TACTICS. He's sat back and watched us get battered week in week out with the same shite set-up but yesterday was the day he re-imagined the squad. No one can deny that those tactics and squad selection were out of character.
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Made me absolutely fucking furious.

He tried to slimily insinuate we're the cause of us not making CL and not winning enough, after saying it wasn't important, only ingraining his principles was; only to then, in the game - one in a million - that leaves the fans mortified forever (long after he's gone), he arbitrarily dumps all of that and makes the changes he could have/should have(!) done ages ago to ensure we would have won more and comfortably qualified for CL.

I am not having any of it.

Totally ego-driven, control freak nonsense.

It's actually quite psychologically abusive tbh.

I am super wary of him, now.

He needs to have a deep think about how he moves forward from here irt tactics/philosophy/fan relations.

I want to see yesterday's game as the benchmark, moving forward.

There is no excuse not to deliver that sort of mature tactical approach and application from this point.

And if he does revert back to wobble-mode, he can fuck off.

I'm not having that level of selfishness, disregard and disrespect.

It's toxic.
 
BernardMatthews said:
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What other things wouldn’t you be surprised by?

Elvis is alive?
Aliens live amongst us?
Neil Armstrong never landed on the moon?
The twin towers were blown up by the CIA?
COVID came from a lab in China??

Actually hang on a goddamn minute……
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yes I believe he's alive
again yes I believe so
He didn't
true again
well yes
 
Ange needs to concentrate more on the cups if he wants to win something. Unless we win the PL it will never matter how high we finish as demonstrated by all the histrionics shown during our latest bad run of form.

That's not to says peeps are not justified in venting their wrath it just needs the application of a dab of perspective once the 38th game has been played. As if by magic the season can morph into a clusterfuck or could do better in the twinkling of an eye.

7th is par for a club of our standing anything higher is punching above.....that is why we need to win some silverware to remove the primate from our shoulders.
 
thinktank said:
That lot in bold hits the middle of the bullseye; especially this bit:

Made me absolutely fucking furious.

He tried to slimily insinuate we're the cause of us not making CL and not winning enough, after saying it wasn't important, only ingraining his principles was; only to then, in the game - one in a million - that leaves the fans mortified forever (long after he's gone), he arbitrarily dumps all of that and makes the changes he could have/should have(!) done ages ago to ensure we would have won more and comfortably qualified for CL.

I am not having any of it.

Totally ego-driven, control freak nonsense.

It's actually quite psychologically abusive tbh.

I am super wary of him, now.

He needs to have a deep think about how he moves forward from here irt tactics/philosophy/fan relations.

I want to see yesterday's game as the benchmark, moving forward.

There is no excuse not to deliver that sort of mature tactical approach and application from this point.

And if he does revert back to wobble-mode, he can fuck off.

I'm not having that level of selfishness, disregard and disrespect.

It's toxic.
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Fuck my life, now Ange tweaking personnel is "pschycologically abusive"(!)

Why don't you lie down and I'll bring you a warm glass of milk and your cuddly support toy, you've had a tough 48 hours.
 
Raiders said:
There was no "cheering for the opposition", I wouldn't have even minded if there was, Sky managed to pick out two blokes making a joke by doing the poznan. God forbid people have fun...
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What's more, those two blokes had already told Carragher they were planning to do it. It's reasonable to assume that he asked them where they would be in the ground so the cameras would be ready.
 
Raiders said:
Yes but I think that is because of Ange. This whole furore is because of his immature reaction and odd comments. West Ham fans have said exactly the same and Moyes made a joke about it instead getting up his own arse.

(Don't bring up the remote possibility that we could have got top 4 as making it different - that is not Ange's point)
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Spurs fan using how West Ham fans behave as a guide for what is cool is a new low.

People can feel how they wanna feel, I'm fine with result and seeing Woolwich fans go completely quiet today, but fans celebrating losing in the stadium at our last home game of the season is small time any way you want to look at it.
 
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