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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I’m glad you haven’t taken Ange’s comments too much to heart thinky!







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I'm a life-long spurs fan, who has been absolutely desperate, along with millions of others, for us to win, win, win and win a trophy/s.

We have begged and pleaded for it and been treated like farm fodder, by that bald bitch.

Not in my life will someone come here and start laying it on us that we don't want to win.

That was an exceptional game, once in a blue moon.

We made a SINGLE exception.

And he's acting like that's 'just what we do' here as a fanbase, and our lack of winning mentality is at the heart of the problem.

Oh no, we want to win... and he better.
 
Even more interesting is that if Villa don't beat Palace. Their PPG this second half of the year will be identical to ours.

1.58 PPG if they draw.

If they lose, their second half of the season would have been worse than ours. 1.53 PPG.

Crazy eh?
Let's not forget they've been to the semis of a European competition, getting the same PPG as them isn't really something to shout about considering we've had no Europe and 2 cup games this year.
 
I'm a life-long spurs fan, who has been absolutely desperate, along with millions of others, for us to win, win, win and win a trophy/s.

We have begged and pleaded for it and been treated like farm fodder, by that bald bitch.

Not in my life will someone come here and start laying it on us that we don't want to win.

That was an exceptional game, once in a blue moon.

We made a SINGLE exception.

And he's acting like that's 'just what we do' here as a fanbase, and our lack of winning mentality is at the heart of the problem.

Oh no, we want to win... and he better.
We’re all passionate about our club………….


…….but we have to remember it’s still just football.

It’s not worth making yourself ill over. Seen too many friends get stressed over things they cannot control and then let it affect their health.
 
Nah mate - youre entire rant is based on hyperbole as usual and you are choosing to take some of the things as he said out of context to make a point that frankly doesn't exist.

If you can find me a quote to backup anything you are saying then fine - but i can find you plenty that counter your claims about what he has said and what he cares about.

"There’s no other reason I do what I do. I want to bring success to this football club and play in a certain way. That never changes - I’m uncompromising in that. Success, for me, is winning things.

"But it’s not a desperation around just winning something, because I just don’t think that gets you a sustainable opportunity to be successful. The foundation is just to play the game a certain way, which I believe brings success but also excites the punters."

They’ve just got pictures of Bill Nicholson and people who have actually achieved. That’s where I want to get us. The funny thing is if you win trophies, you tend to have bragging rights as well. I just want to make sure we stay clearly disciplined and focused. It would be easy for me to say that getting one over your rivals is most important. You could do that and not win anything and I would feel great about myself and maybe the fans feel good about me, but we can’t be successful if that’s our goal. Success to me is winning trophies and until we do that, we have just got to make sure we stay laser-focused on what we want to achieve."

"I’m here because I want to create a club that has the opportunity to win things on a yearly basis,”

“I don’t see fourth as the prize. I don’t want to finish fourth if we haven’t grown and developed as a team. Part of the narrative is to push you in these kinds of positions where you think that fourth is some kind of achievement that gives you something for next year. Fourth would be great if I feel like we’re growing as a team, and we’re creating something that is going to bring us success next year. But fourth is not our goal... If we finish fifth, and if I think we’ve got a team to challenge next year, then I won’t be disappointed."
Nothing you've said reshapes the reality of his performance/s as manger, his tactical shortcomings and his many contradictions every time he opens his mouth.

To then accuse us of being deficient.

It also does not do one thing to justify his clear implication post-match - also in tone and demeanour- that we don't want to win enough as fans and have a mentality issue which is central to our problem of underachievement.

Again, this guy would not have had been so bold in Glasgow with a situation like this.

He knows he would have been literally ripped to shreds by Celtic fans.
 
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Yes we've had injuries but they're a direct consequence of the chaos-ball football we play which constantly leaves our players having to sprint back making last ditch tackles.

Also we will have plenty more games next season, so our injury situation is only likely to get worse not better.
I call BS.

The fact that there has been more injuries this season.

Then the fact that Richarlison and Bentancur's injuries were from last season.

Pape and Biss got injured/ got sick at the Afcon.

Maddison was the most fouled player in the PL.

Solomon and Perisic tore their ACL and ICL in training.

These are just normal business but we do not have enough Forwards where we can keep up a high press easily for 90 minutes.
 
Exactly. What a shock, a club that is one of europes biggest and has a trophy winning history, has a fan base that demands success.

It’s not us fans that are the issue. It’s the owners, managers and players that need to step up and deliver. If not, piss off somewhere else and have an easy life.

As a fan base I think we are actually more tolerant and patient than most other clubs our size.

As Kane said, losing two games in a row at spurs was not the end of the world.

That comment alone shows the mentality of the club from owners to players. But not us supporters because losing 2 in a row does fucking matter to me.

The fans accept it though, because if they didn't accept it you'll see a lot more unrest, heckling, protests, action from the fans, instead our fanbase are completely passive, all we are good for is ranting and arguing with each other online.

Other fanbases wouldn't except some of the shit our club and our board have done so why do we?

And this is where the fans play a part because by choosing to accept it and not take any action we are complicit.
 
The fans accept it though, because if they didn't accept it you'll see a lot more unrest, heckling, protests, action from the fans, instead our fanbase are completely passive, all we are good for is ranting and arguing with each other online.

Other fanbases wouldn't except some of the shit our club and our board have done so why do we?

And this is where the fans play a part because by choosing to accept it and not take any action we are complicit.
Yeah, good points.
 
Amongst all this this uniquely weird situation I really wish people left Levy/ENIC out of it.

We had lost pretty meekly to Woolwich, Liverpool, Chelsea and Newcsstle . Come from behind to beat a now relegated Burnley. We were not on a great run of form by any stretch.

If this had not been Woolwich and we played as we did, it would be praise and nothing else.

Whatever people think.Levy should or should not have done the manager had fcuk all reason not to adopt different tactics long before the 5 game losing streak. Did he do that?

Postecoglou and others can fcuk right off with their blinkered criticism.

Nothing to do with being losers but absolutely everything to do with self preservation

I am sure most other managers would have left plsyers on the bench and as for Bentancur. Fcuk me. Show that passion all the time mate. Unreal.
 
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The fans accept it though, because if they didn't accept it you'll see a lot more unrest, heckling, protests, action from the fans, instead our fanbase are completely passive, all we are good for is ranting and arguing with each other online.

Other fanbases wouldn't except some of the shit our club and our board have done so why do we?

And this is where the fans play a part because by choosing to accept it and not take any action we are complicit.

Nonsense. This season was an opportunity to get 4th, given how it went. We had the players.

Postecoglou may get us 5th. Not bad but not doing so is down to him. Had he made such changes as he did when we played City, who knows but it's his fault.

We simply extrapolate all the time to suit agendas. It's so boring.
 
no, but their fans were willing to give up a european trophy...of which theyve never even won! just to stop us winning one thats more prestigious. thats actually far more of a sacrifice than our fans wanting to lose a game against city an give up FOURTH in the league to stop them winning the league. youre on about small time mentality from the fans.
Did they poll fans and get 80% in favour of that?
Probably not.
Do I even care what other fans think?
Definitely not.
I only care about what we do. I don't give a flying fuck what a pirate looking cunt on AFTV does or thinks or says.
 
So surely a bigger reason for them to give it" we don't care about them" and want to win the EL?. But they didnt,they would still rather lose,than see us lift the CL trophy.
How many of them actually thought it though? A handful?

It seems to be the overwhelming majority of fans here and everywhere that wanted us to lose. Not a handful of dumb idiots, the vast, overwhelming majority.

And again - I don't care what other fans do or think. That doesn't make me think the same way.
 
I appreciate your respectful tone, but I find that absolutely outrageous.

I wished my team to win all the times HE didn't care about it, allowing us to get battered by not making rudimentary adjustments to our set-piece defending.

He told everyone he didn't care and to piss of and leave him alone.

I'm not having this guy bowl into my club and play me for a cunt, wanting to gaslight and conduct everyone around his whims:

'maybe I'll just leave the schoolboy marking on set-pieces and not compact defend in a mid-block; or maybe I'll just choose to do all that and fix other parts which were failing, causing us to keep losing, in the one game that provides our arch rival and fierce historical competitor a title which will propel them even more years ahead of us, a situation which I am directly responsible for, as we only had to draw with them AT HOME to stop them'.

The pristine fact is he allowed a rot to set in by wilful, open negligence, causing us to LOSE game after game, then sanctimoniously shits on the fans for not wanting to WIN.

Patently absurd.

Majority of fans have been super generous, gracious and supportive to Ange; backing him throughout his arse -dropping slump and infantile tactical approach.

He's self-centred and fucking ungrateful and I can fucking tell you I am still furious with this and I will NOT be played as a cunt to sate someone's ego.

Listen, if you wanna fall for it and pretend that the vast majority of us fans who wanted to ensure - in a game which was one-in-a-million(!)... exceptional circumstances - that the scum, who have been well on the rise, do not gain the key to the very top tier and leave us even further behind, making it more difficult to win anything, are to be blamed, then fill your boots.

It's thoroughly perverse that there's a minority who are buying into this narrative Ange is seeding here.

The media already loves to shit on us and treat us like reek on a rack and he's sat there post-match, in a toddlers huff and given them more fuel to do it with.

Fucking fraudulent.

This fanbase has been wanting nothing but trophies forever; it's not US that have been the fucking problem, that would be BALDCUNT!

We've been begging that bastard to deliver trophies, and have been fully behind THE CLUB, consistently and loyally, even though he's failed miserably in doing so.

We've been emotionally abused and our love of the club has been exploited since he's been here and now we have to have a johnny-come-lately bowl in here - not even remotely interested in discovering, exploring and understanding the heart and soul of the fans - to pile in on top of it.

Disgusting.

THE FANS have not been the fucking problem - apart from the few who want to have that bald mthrfkr remain here to maintain mediocrity - and no cunt on this planet is going to gaslight me that we are.

Ange, put up or shut the fuck up and fuck off.

Enough talking.

DO IT.

And don't you dare try and use us as a buffer for any future failure.

Scumbag move.

Why I respect Conte - at least he came directly at the source!

Like a fucking MAN.

Oh WOW!!!

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Post of the season right. fucking. Here

Take a bow, son.....Take a bow .:bow:
 
How many of them actually thought it though? A handful?

It seems to be the overwhelming majority of fans here and everywhere that wanted us to lose. Not a handful of dumb idiots, the vast, overwhelming majority.

And again - I don't care what other fans do or think. That doesn't make me think the same way.
I reckon it was more than a handful.
Point is, it's being made to to be an attitude unique to Spurs fans, when it isn't.
 
Nothing you've said reshapes the reality of his performance/s as manger, his tactical shortcomings and his many contradictions every time he opens his mouth.

To then accuse us of being deficient.

It also does not do one thing to justify his clear implication post-match - also in tone and demeanour- that we don't want to win enough as fans and have a mentality issue which is central to our problem of underachievement.

Again, this guy would not have had been so bold in Glasgow with a situation like this.

He knows he would have been literally ripped to shreds by Celtic fans.

His performance as a manager has been very mixed and his shortcomings are plain for all to see.

You stated he said he doesnt care about winning. He does. To the point where when fans cheer for conceding goals in our own stadium it pissed him off.
 
And this is probably the biggest understatement of the season,
It's why I find it so infuriating reading a bunch of losers on here complaining about our fans lacking patience. It's downright patronising and a load of utter, fucking nonsense.

What have you done to force the hand of the owners to change the fortunes of the club or for them to leave the club?
 
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