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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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Such a 'we signed him in jan" kinda guy aren't you

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This is a prime example of what I mean by dumbing down.
We have 2 posters, discussing a topic in a reasonable way, then this one pipes up with "ignore it" because he doesn't like the fact that there are equally valid but opposing arguments to what he believes.

We only grow if we question our own beliefs regularly. Ignoring a challenge to those beliefs, or shouting them down, is on a par with religious dogma or flat earthing.

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He’s our second best CB and possibly the most important position in our team for recovery pace.

Move him to LB and you get a double negative because he’s not as good as Udogie for inverted FB plus you are missing one if your most important pieces at CB.

It’s anti logic
Agree with you rich

Trouble is …. He was fucking great when he filled in!

For the same reasons as you I want us to sign another LB

So it’s not anti illogical
 
I see, another abacus botherer lives among us, Im guessing a title just counts as a 1st place finish and 2nd place is just 1 data point less?
The point is pretty irrelevant anyway as the league is a completely different beast to what it was 60s, 70's, 80's. Then you could be a good side, maybe win the title and the following season or two struggle against relegation. Clubs bombed pretty quickly, Leeds, Derby, Man Utd, Us.

Since the Prem/CL league and the advent of huge squads placings dont fluctuate that much. Look how appalling we were 2 years ago, barely played well in a single game, last 3rd of the season we were abysmal and we finished 8th. A season under AVB and Sherwood 7th . Not just us, how bad were Utd last season and yet finished 6th. For a big established club to finish outside the top 8 now is very rare. So obviously points tallies/league placings look more favourable than the 60s or 80s. I know which Tottenham sides i would rather see.
 
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City and United.
Of course, City’s revenue is fake but 719 to 549 in 22/23. United were @650+.

Yes, I’m sure. Do the math yourself if you don’t believe me.

The average league position was 5.6 in the 1960s versus 4.2 in the 2010s. Bit of a stretch to describe it as more successful than a decade with a league and cup double and European silverware, but 2010s were the most successful period in living memory for most of us, including me. We will need to go some to match either the 1960s or 2010s this decade. We live in hope!
 
You're a FAR more intelligent person than that. The point is valid, though it doesn't include trophies, which is where I think you're questioning it.

Both can be true.
I understand the sentiment of your post but I can't countenance a decade where "we" (I wasn't alive )won the double and finished 2nd once and 3rd twice as being less than a decade where we finished 3rd twice and 2nd once with the CL final.

You can shout me down for not having been there for those glory days but I'm not accepting what's being posited by him.

Since I've been able to remember being a fan which is from the early to mid 90s, we were either fighting relegation or comfortable midtable until that legend Jol came along.

Since then there have been multiple opportunities to push etc and I won't bore you with that but the one thing that's really pissed me off is the fact that all through my childhood, teen and early twenties it was a given that Woolwich would always be better than us to the point they had a day celebrating it.

When we rose like we did under Poch I couldn't believe it and I'll never forgive the club for not capitalising on it like they should have, instead we're back to where a kid supporting Spurs would assume it's divine right for that lot to be better than us when it shouldn't have been and there's people supporting it becaus the spreadsheets make sense.
 
The average league position was 5.6 in the 1960s versus 4.2 in the 2010s. Bit of a stretch to describe it as more successful than a decade with a league and cup double and European silverware, but 2010s were the most successful period in living memory for most of us, including me. We will need to go some to match either the 1960s or 2010s this decade. We live in hope!
That’s why I described it in terms of average league position and expressed my disappointment at not winning trophies during this decade elsewhere in the post. Again, I’m drawn off-topic to explain a self-explanatory post but, yes, we live in hope and it’s the hope that kills.
 
I see, another abacus botherer lives among us, Im guessing a title just counts as a 1st place finish and 2nd place is just 1 data point less?
Shockingly enough, that’s why I used the term ‘average’ and discussed my disappointment at not being able to convert this into trophies. I guess I just should posted ‘bald cunt’ to be agreeable.

As an abacus botherer, I should point out the annual position for a year, being a discrete unit of information, represents a data point regardless of value. Finishing 1st or 2nd or 20th in any year provides a single data point. 2nd isn’t a data point less than 1st. Hope this explanation is helpful.
 
Depends, do you think he was sweet talked enough to disregard the history of operations over the past 20 odd years and think he was the special one?

Otherwise talking about impossibilities is pointless and worse marks you out as naive amongst your own playing staff.

I think every manager thinks they are the one who can do what hasn’t been done. It’s the mentality that got them where they are. The line between self belief and delusion is pretty thin
 
It's his intent and goal.

Reminds me of our greatest ever manager's quote;

It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory.

It's obvious that more than a few don't believe that, but we shouldn't ridicule our manager for having that mindset.

Exactly mate.

I’m a big believer in being consciously deluded.
 
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