Ur name suits you, in Northen Ireland your *John Thomas* is ur a cock….. u sir are a cock, u admit it urself.Shady and Donki , Sitting in a tree.
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I bet u will have a full first kit that’s in the bag in ur hand, full kit wanker.
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Plucky old Spurs
A bit of generosity and perhaps we can afford to loan a player from our illustrious city rivals, Chelsea or West Ham
Hmmm, wasn't that the season AFTER we won silverware?
Im absolutely certain you were in here, bigging up the Chairman, club and fully backing his managerial choice after we won the cup - because when we win things that is what it's all about?
Right?
Load of nonsense mate -
Have you ever worked in an office full of football fans?
Every club is a banter club - not a bad result, loss, managerial sacking for any club went without the absolute piss being ripped regardless of the team - it comes as part an parcel of being in the top echelons of the best league in the world.
Woolwich have been bantered much much worse in the media, by other fans, by everyone, than us the last couple of seasons and they finished higher than we did and were challenging for the league.
If you don't have the constitution to handle football banter, then its just not the sport for you.
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The first time we win something under them, I'll be ready to sing their praises until dawn.
So criticism is reserved for ENIC when the team loses but not when we win, and they only get praised when we win a trophy
Yeah this doesn't make any sense whatsoever...
Do they have anything for us.
Daniel levy gets by on his looks
If he wasn't a ridiculous piece of ass , there's no way shady and his clan would worship him night and day
If he wasn't a ridiculous piece of ass , there's no way shady and his clan would worship him night and day
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So criticism is reserved for ENIC when the team loses but not when we win, and they only get praised when we win a trophy
Yeah this doesn't make any sense whatsoever...
Yes, if the team wins something then both ENIC and their man Levy will receive praise. If the team continues to bob aimlessly without winning anything, they will continue to receive criticism. This is a general truism.
But we have had 5 managers in 5 years, which surely isn't Levy's fault.
And the players aren't good enough to contend for trophies, we can hardly blame Levy for a lack of silverware in the trophy room with players like the ones we've had during his run.
The only possible conclusion given that we continue to change the managers and once in a generation change the players but never change Levy is that Levy is the only thing we're doing right, isn't it?
After all, if the lack of results were Daniel Levy's fault, surely ENIC would have replaced him sometime in the last 24 years, unless they were utterly lacking in ambition for greater things.
Once we've got the right players and the right manager, if we can build a club around Daniel Levy, I'm certain the results will come.
The players have been good enough to win trophies over the years though, look how many Semi final's we've got to for example.
We've scored 0 goals in our last 4 finals, that's not an ability thing.
If a team hasn't won for over 16 years and are considered one of the biggest and richest clubs in the world... then it is just. Because it can't be a player or a manager problem. It has to be the owners.So criticism is reserved for ENIC when the team loses but not when we win, and they only get praised when we win a trophy
Yeah this doesn't make any sense whatsoever...
This isn't up for debate
If praise is reserved for the team and the manager when we win why isn't the same energy kept when we lose?
ENIC is responsible for putting the team together, recruiting the manager and buying the players afterall...
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Yes I remember the last final, the manager had been sacked a few days before and it was left to Ryan Mason to guide the club in a final against City. So unfortunate that happened to Daniel Levy the way it did.
What about the other ones?
Not sure if it was Daniel's decision to play a half fit Harry Kane in the CL final for example...
Because who does ENIC make money out of..... us..
So if we feel like he is not doing a good job on football we have a right to say.
Why can't we create a team like Liverpool or even the Goonz when we have the money.
You talk like players don't get criticized. For all I know, we pound our players if they don't perform.
Just look at Richie even Son gets mauled by some idiots here.
So I don't get this "why blame ENIC and not the team" is coming from.
You're putting up a load of straw men to what should be a pretty simple debate here fella.
The point is and something I've consistently said that it's a collective responsibility in success and failure, I think you missed out on where the debate started where some people were happy to point the success to to teams and the players and the failures exclusively down to the board.
Criticism is reserved for ENIC because we've been losing with them for 25 years...... while our 2 traditional rivals have been regularly stocking their trophy cabinets and taking the piss
You may get some perverse pleasure from being Woolwich and Chelsea's bitch, but many of us find it painful and difficult to stomach.
This is all well and good but you didn't really answer the question.