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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Brian Fantana said:
Very true


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My Aussie Rules side (Hawthorn) sent our Coach to visit with Ange last year. He spoke very highly of Ange (most Aussie coaching people do fwiw) but what I gind fascinating is that Hawthorn has adopted much of the Ange approach in our latest rebuild.

1st year very much focused on implementing an attacking style - driving it into the ethos of the team regardless of the hurt we would suffer defensively. He also chopped a LOT of experience from the team to start the whole thing afresh with new players designed to fit our destination and attacking profile.

So coming into this season the expectation was to push for finals. And to address some of the defensive part of the game neglected when instilling the offensive mindset.

Hawthorn lost its first 5 games. Natives were restless. It looked like we were going backwards.

Long story short Hawthorn have gone 13-4 to be in the finals and playing a brand of football that has seen it regularly beating its rivals by 10 goals.

I fully expect Ange to fix these defensive issues once he's happy that the offense is done.

It takes time.
 
Larry David said:
We finally seem to have a plan and a structure and some fans want Ange sacked for drawing an away game
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Nope, it's not one game though is it?

We've only won 12 out of our last 29 league games, and we have only beaten one team in the top half since December. We also lost 5 out of our last 8 games. Ange is tactically naive and has no plan B at all. I don't want him fired, but unless things pick up very, very soon... it's kind of inevitable at this point.
 
Phomesy said:
My Aussie Rules side (Hawthorn) sent our Coach to visit with Ange last year. He spoke very highly of Ange (most Aussie coaching people do fwiw) but what I gind fascinating is that Hawthorn has adopted much of the Ange approach in our latest rebuild.

1st year very much focused on implementing an attacking style - driving it into the ethos of the team regardless of the hurt we would suffer defensively. He also chopped a LOT of experience from the team to start the whole thing afresh with new players designed to fit our destination and attacking profile.

So coming into this season the expectation was to push for finals. And to address some of the defensive part of the game neglected when instilling the offensive mindset.

Hawthorn lost its first 5 games. Natives were restless. It looked like we were going backwards.

Long story short Hawthorn have gone 13-4 to be in the finals and playing a brand of football that has seen it regularly beating its rivals by 10 goals.

I fully expect Ange to fix these defensive issues once he's happy that the offense is done.

It takes time.
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Why would he not have fixed them at the earliest date? Are modern managers incapable of focusing on more than one thing at the time? Are our players so unreasonably thick that they can only keep one set of instructions in their heads? And given that our attacking fell off a cliff in the second half of the season as well, are we sure that we’re even seeing improvement in that facet?
 
Richard Arlison said:
Difference being Johnson was wide open and so was Son on the other side if he’d attacked the cross.
I didn’t count it because I’d forgotten about it but really it’s a much better chance than the Leicester one because we had a defender blocking any angle except the side netting. If they scored from that it would have be a miracle
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That Johnson what across the goal was an attempt at goal by as he hit it low and hard. It wasn’t a cross for someone to tap. If he it slower then son would prbly have got it.
 
thinktank said:
Perfectly reasonable to be very concerned at potential to continue in this direction.

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Think most of that was from Savva on football heritage. He had some other stats as well.
 
Leoyiddo said:
I am still aboard the Ange train, didn’t Real Madrid just daw their opening game against a team who finished 15th last season, whilst dominating on every front? It happens in football. A game of fine margins. Of course his system works, we nearly got top 4 last year whilst having have our best players out for half the season. If we took our chances last night and won 3-1, there wouldn’t be 250 added pages to this thread. I do think Son looks poor atm. Definitely has to start Kulu against Everton. Bergvall in for Sarr as well IMO.
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Half season ! Common look at the stats most our players played over 30 games in the PL. Only VDV players around 27 I think. Plus they had plenty of recovery time as we no Europe or cup games. This thing about injuries we had last is getting on my tots. Toon, manure and chavs had just as much or worse. Of course on the flip side people are happy to keep players like Davies but then say we had poor results bcos we had injuries. Well with players like Davies then what do you expect!
 
Matt1882 said:
He won the FA Cup with Emery's team though :roflmao:
Before they spent a billion quid
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Granted, although he took over when they were already in a semi final which obviously helps. The following season he was knocked out in the 4th round.

But fair enough, a trophy is a trophy. However, there's no denying that he benefited from a degree of good fortune, like playing a final where the opponent goes down to ten men...
 
Larry David said:
I’m very happy with Ange as our coach and think there has been a huge over reaction because of the result on Monday night

We dominated the game completely bar a 15 minute spell in which Romero left Vardy unmarked and their fans got a lift

If we’d taken more of our numerous chances we’d have won comfortably

The football is great to watch and sets us up to dominate matches, he’s also trying to change the culture of the club, a culture that has been festering for 25 years or so

He needs time, let’s judge him properly at the end of this season, but I for one think he’s the perfect man to take us to where we want to be
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Dudski said:
You'll know Postecoglou's system is working when you see quicker breakouts in the build up and some longer diagonal passes out. What I haven't seen, that I expected from everything I heard and read about his system, is Spurs getting into the final third with the other side on their heels. We haven't been breaking down defenses. A worrisome side of Bissouma's situation is that his position is critical to how Spurs play out from the back. I don't know enough about the technical side of the game to say if all this is because other teams are figuring out better how to slow teams who play out from the back or if it is a lack of execution. Either way, I don't think you can say yet whether Postecoglou's system will work or not. If we're at the middle of the season and still slow working the ball to the attack then I'll be concerned.
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But he had all last season to bed in his principles or whatever. For the 2nd of last season we got worse and there was no improvement in playing the ball faster from the back.
 
JDefoe said:
Why would he not have fixed them at the earliest date? Are modern managers incapable of focusing on more than one thing at the time? Are our players so unreasonably thick that they can only keep one set of instructions in their heads? And given that our attacking fell off a cliff in the second half of the season as well, are we sure that we’re even seeing improvement in that facet?
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You're right. We should sack both Ange and Sam Mitchell and you and I should take over both clubs immediately.

Should have thought of that before.
 
For no real good reason, I compared Ange to The Fonz ( Paulo Fonseca )

Remarkably similar successes.

Paulo has a 52.86 % win ratio from 685 games

Ange has 53.59% win ratio from 724 games

Ange has won more, the Celtic stint topping the scales, but if it’s reasonable to put that aside they have both won about the same. The Fonz arguably wins the domestic battle due to his European league titles but Ange on the international scene wins l.

Why compare the two ?

Well no one fancied Paulo very much back before Nuno was appointed. But roll around 2 years and he’s at AC Milan and Ange looks a bit lost at the moment.
 
If I was the chairman Id be doing my utmost to be tapping up Xabi Alonso and his team right now

Genuinely a top quality young manager that knows the game properly. Not some pseudo coach.

Massive ask to pry him from leverkusen

And i dont care about the Liverpool links, its irrelevant
 
Gym&Chill said:
If I was the chairman Id be doing my utmost to be tapping up Xabi Alonso and his team right now

Genuinely a top quality young manager that knows the game properly. Not some pseudo coach.

Massive ask to pry him from leverkusen

And i dont care about the Liverpool links, its irrelevant
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Lolz you are delusional. There’s 3 clubs, who he used to play for, that are substantially bigger than us, who would hire him at the drop of a hat.
 
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