Hopefully Dom is fit to play ,would expect the toon to score so we will most likely need a couple of goals to get anything out of the game .
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Match Newcastle Away 1.30pm Sunday Sept 1
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United Liverpool is also Sunday and is obviously the bigger audience.
I used to think his name was Joe Linton.
Been to every premier league ground over years watching us bar newcastle. Had chance to go when we beat them 4 nil under sherwood but was a midweek. Would like to go to st james park one day. Favourite away trip for me is west brom away.
Ten Haag in the shit if they lose
Id like to think we can challenge for title or at least top 4. Just think this a good test of our mental strength. If were serious we have to go to newcastle and get 3 points.
OK, avoiding defeat at Newcastle would be a start, but yes 3 points even better.
Another week beckons of how poor Newcastle have looked so far. How we can do this and that. Who shoild play etc. One or two will concede Newcastle will turn up, despite a midweek game Howe will want to win.
And then by 15:30 on Sunday it will be Postecoglou this and that, and which player is sh!t.
When you have a weakness and you don't address it....
And then by 15:30 on Sunday it will be Postecoglou this and that, and which player is sh!t.
When you have a weakness and you don't address it....
I'M SURE it is...
But just don't put OUR game on TV, and leave it on a Saturday where it was... It's not like it was a European week... There'll be plenty of opportunities to play on a Sunday.
We all KNOW why they're putting Newcastle v Spurs on TV... cos it usually ends up in a hiding for us.
...and they just want EVERYONE to be able to watch and enjoy it!!
I wanna beat those Horse Punching, Shirtless Saudi Cocksuckers SO MUCH!
It's not that great for away fans when you're sat at 30,000 ft.
It's a real test, partly because we have capitulated up there in recent times. Not good enough and actually embarrassing.
A draw would be fine. I can't see it.
Why have they brought the normal Sunday KOs forward by 30 mins though? They are usually 14:00 and 16:30. As a special treat for our travelling fans they are 13:30 and 16:00 next week.
It’s great. You’re about half a mile away up 8n the stand
We’ll do ok. They have 3 centre halves out. Used up all their luck yesterday v Bournemouth. Joe Linton should have been off.
Before last two seasons we had lost one in 8. Yesterday lots of crosses by Bournemouth across 6 yard box. That’s our staple diet.
So they have more time to talk about United/Liverpool in the build up? I don't know mate.
We've had 130s before on Sundays (and 12s) but I agree it's shit.
This is why it's been picked because it's usually a goal fest.
Agreed, my family are coming for lunch , leaving at 3pm. They could have made it a 4pm kick off, they don’t think of the fans.
Last time Howe got a lot of praise from how he set them up tactically to beat us. Surely because of that Ange will go up there and either build up or play a slightly different way.
He cant line us up to play in the same way. Howe will just do the above. Ange has to change it to keep them guessing.
By Ahmed Walid
Apr 14, 2024
18
On paper, all plans and ideas are viable. Executing them against a high-level opponent is a totally different task, however.
Whether that’s using a back five, a back four, or a player playing different roles in and out of possession, the tactical strategies introduced by any coaching staff need to be well executed by the players.
“You can plan a game plan — how you are going to go against any team — (but) it’s irrelevant really,” said Eddie Howe, Newcastle United’s head coach, after the 4-0 victory against Tottenham Hotspur. “It’s down to the players and how they deliver that.”
That’s why Howe was full of praise for his players after the final whistle.
Despite preparing the match with a “ridiculously small” number of players, Newcastle’s delivery of their game plan was on a different level.
Against Tottenham, the most obvious change from Howe’s side was the switch to a back five, with Jacob Murphy and Elliot Anderson operating as wing-backs in a 5-4-1 when Newcastle were defending in their own half.
The switch in shape meant that Newcastle were in position to defend against Tottenham’s wide combinations without stretching their own defensive line.
Higher up the field, Newcastle’s man-oriented pressing prevented Tottenham from building up through the central areas and finding their narrow full-backs, Pedro Porro and Destiny Udogie, who were man-marked by Anderson and Murphy. Meanwhile, Alexander Isak’s role was to drop and mark Yves Bissouma or block the passing lane into the Tottenham midfielder…
… as Bruno Guimaraes and Sean Longstaff picked up Rodrigo Bentancur and James Maddison.
Newcastle’s organisation without the ball stifled Tottenham’s attack, and their pressing led to one of their four goals. The remaining three came from a corner kick and on the transition.
The pace of Isak, Anthony Gordon and Harvey Barnes makes them a threat when attacking space on the transition, but where they attacked and their positioning when Newcastle had just won the ball was as important.
When Newcastle were defending in their 5-4-1 block, Gordon and Barnes were constantly positioned ahead of Udogie and Porro, blocking the passing lanes into the Tottenham full-backs…
… or handing them over to Newcastle’s wide centre-backs.
That approach provided Gordon and Barnes with a positional advantage once Newcastle won the ball back and were ready to attack on the transition. Here, Newcastle’s wide forwards are slightly ahead of Tottenham’s full-backs when Murphy wins the ball back…
… and starts the transition by playing it forward to Gordon. At the same time, Barnes starts moving forward…
… and accelerates to provide Gordon with a passing option, but Timo Werner and Micky van de Ven foul the England forward to halt the counter-attack.
In addition, Gordon and Barnes’ pressing roles on Van de Ven and Cristian Romero positioned them higher than Udogie and Porro, who were man-marked by Murphy and Anderson during the pressing phase. Therefore, whenever Tottenham went long, Newcastle won the ball back and started the transition, Gordon and Barnes were further up the field than Tottenham’s full-backs.
In this example, Tottenham go direct and win the ball in Newcastle’s half, but Barnes and Gordon drop, and the latter recovers possession to start the transition. Due to Gordon and Barnes’ pressing duties, they have a positional advantage over Udogie and Porro…
… which allows them to beat Tottenham’s full-backs and attack the wide open spaces when Longstaff plays the ball into Isak…
… who squares it to Gordon, with Barnes sprinting forward down the other side.
Gordon spots Barnes’ run and plays it across, but the forward’s first touch allows Porro to clear the ball for a corner.
The final element of Newcastle’s transitional blueprint was Isak, who regularly positioned himself in wider positions to attack the space Tottenham’s full-backs had vacated. In this example, he maintains a wider position as Tottenham try to play through Newcastle’s midfield.
Seconds later, Udogie’s pass into Son Heung-min is intercepted by Dan Burn, and with Gordon in an advanced position…
… he is ready to attack the space Udogie has vacated when Newcastle start their transition. Down the left side, Isak is providing a similar passing option because of his positioning in the space Porro vacated. Guimaraes tries to find Isak, but the pass is overhit.
Eventually, Newcastle’s attacking threat on the transitions proved fruitful. In the lead-up to the first goal, Isak positions himself in the space vacated by Porro as Guimaraes finds Gordon behind Tottenham’s other full-back.
While Gordon battles with Udogie to win the ball, Isak makes an inside run in the blindside of Romero…
… before Gordon finds him in space, and Isak dribbles past Van de Ven to make it 1-0.
In the second half, Isak scored again from a similar situation. Here, Emerson Royal, who replaced Porro, is in an attacking position when Longstaff and Guimaraes win the ball in front of Newcastle’s penalty area to start the attacking transition.
Further up the pitch, Isak is in the centre circle with Romero in a wide position to cover for his right-back.
After Guimaraes wins possession, Isak fakes a movement towards Tottenham’s left side and smartly attacks their right side…
… with Romero and Royal in advanced positions. Guimaraes finds his run into space…
… and Isak duly scores his second of the game.
Attacking the space vacated by Udogie and Porro is trivial, but Newcastle’s setup out of possession provided them with an advantage on the attacking transitions, while neutralising Tottenham’s attack and the threat of their full-backs in narrow positions.
In the post-match press conference, Howe rightly lauded the performance of his players, but this was very much a victory for the manager and his coaching staff too.
He cant line us up to play in the same way. Howe will just do the above. Ange has to change it to keep them guessing.
The Eddie Howe tactical masterclass that overpowered Spurs
By Ahmed Walid
Apr 14, 2024
18
On paper, all plans and ideas are viable. Executing them against a high-level opponent is a totally different task, however.
Whether that’s using a back five, a back four, or a player playing different roles in and out of possession, the tactical strategies introduced by any coaching staff need to be well executed by the players.
“You can plan a game plan — how you are going to go against any team — (but) it’s irrelevant really,” said Eddie Howe, Newcastle United’s head coach, after the 4-0 victory against Tottenham Hotspur. “It’s down to the players and how they deliver that.”
That’s why Howe was full of praise for his players after the final whistle.
Despite preparing the match with a “ridiculously small” number of players, Newcastle’s delivery of their game plan was on a different level.
Against Tottenham, the most obvious change from Howe’s side was the switch to a back five, with Jacob Murphy and Elliot Anderson operating as wing-backs in a 5-4-1 when Newcastle were defending in their own half.
The switch in shape meant that Newcastle were in position to defend against Tottenham’s wide combinations without stretching their own defensive line.
Higher up the field, Newcastle’s man-oriented pressing prevented Tottenham from building up through the central areas and finding their narrow full-backs, Pedro Porro and Destiny Udogie, who were man-marked by Anderson and Murphy. Meanwhile, Alexander Isak’s role was to drop and mark Yves Bissouma or block the passing lane into the Tottenham midfielder…
… as Bruno Guimaraes and Sean Longstaff picked up Rodrigo Bentancur and James Maddison.
Newcastle’s organisation without the ball stifled Tottenham’s attack, and their pressing led to one of their four goals. The remaining three came from a corner kick and on the transition.
The pace of Isak, Anthony Gordon and Harvey Barnes makes them a threat when attacking space on the transition, but where they attacked and their positioning when Newcastle had just won the ball was as important.
When Newcastle were defending in their 5-4-1 block, Gordon and Barnes were constantly positioned ahead of Udogie and Porro, blocking the passing lanes into the Tottenham full-backs…
… or handing them over to Newcastle’s wide centre-backs.
That approach provided Gordon and Barnes with a positional advantage once Newcastle won the ball back and were ready to attack on the transition. Here, Newcastle’s wide forwards are slightly ahead of Tottenham’s full-backs when Murphy wins the ball back…
… and starts the transition by playing it forward to Gordon. At the same time, Barnes starts moving forward…
… and accelerates to provide Gordon with a passing option, but Timo Werner and Micky van de Ven foul the England forward to halt the counter-attack.
In addition, Gordon and Barnes’ pressing roles on Van de Ven and Cristian Romero positioned them higher than Udogie and Porro, who were man-marked by Murphy and Anderson during the pressing phase. Therefore, whenever Tottenham went long, Newcastle won the ball back and started the transition, Gordon and Barnes were further up the field than Tottenham’s full-backs.
In this example, Tottenham go direct and win the ball in Newcastle’s half, but Barnes and Gordon drop, and the latter recovers possession to start the transition. Due to Gordon and Barnes’ pressing duties, they have a positional advantage over Udogie and Porro…
… which allows them to beat Tottenham’s full-backs and attack the wide open spaces when Longstaff plays the ball into Isak…
… who squares it to Gordon, with Barnes sprinting forward down the other side.
Gordon spots Barnes’ run and plays it across, but the forward’s first touch allows Porro to clear the ball for a corner.
The final element of Newcastle’s transitional blueprint was Isak, who regularly positioned himself in wider positions to attack the space Tottenham’s full-backs had vacated. In this example, he maintains a wider position as Tottenham try to play through Newcastle’s midfield.
Seconds later, Udogie’s pass into Son Heung-min is intercepted by Dan Burn, and with Gordon in an advanced position…
… he is ready to attack the space Udogie has vacated when Newcastle start their transition. Down the left side, Isak is providing a similar passing option because of his positioning in the space Porro vacated. Guimaraes tries to find Isak, but the pass is overhit.
Eventually, Newcastle’s attacking threat on the transitions proved fruitful. In the lead-up to the first goal, Isak positions himself in the space vacated by Porro as Guimaraes finds Gordon behind Tottenham’s other full-back.
While Gordon battles with Udogie to win the ball, Isak makes an inside run in the blindside of Romero…
… before Gordon finds him in space, and Isak dribbles past Van de Ven to make it 1-0.
In the second half, Isak scored again from a similar situation. Here, Emerson Royal, who replaced Porro, is in an attacking position when Longstaff and Guimaraes win the ball in front of Newcastle’s penalty area to start the attacking transition.
Further up the pitch, Isak is in the centre circle with Romero in a wide position to cover for his right-back.
After Guimaraes wins possession, Isak fakes a movement towards Tottenham’s left side and smartly attacks their right side…
… with Romero and Royal in advanced positions. Guimaraes finds his run into space…
… and Isak duly scores his second of the game.
Attacking the space vacated by Udogie and Porro is trivial, but Newcastle’s setup out of possession provided them with an advantage on the attacking transitions, while neutralising Tottenham’s attack and the threat of their full-backs in narrow positions.
In the post-match press conference, Howe rightly lauded the performance of his players, but this was very much a victory for the manager and his coaching staff too.