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Rules Referees & Impartiality: Can this be delivered on a consistent basis?

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We all must appreciate how difficult it can get for referees trying to be fair in their decision making during the game. Trying to contend with players, officials, press and fans, most of the time screaming at them to do the 'right thing' by their team and criticizing them when they do not. The pressures on the refs to make the 'correct decision' must be tremendous, but what about the issue of Unconscious Bias for example, how much of an impact does this have in their decision making processes and in order to correct this, has the attempt to perhaps correct this with the introduction of VAR gone too far?

 
In a word, no.

Not unless referees stop their transparent favoritism of certain teams, especially at their home grounds.

You say "Unconscious Bias", I think it's very conscious. We saw it yesterday in the NLD, repeatedly for the likes of Man Utd, and on the continent for Real Madrid & Barcelona for example.
 
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Not only that, referees are the most protected individuals in football, any legit criticism of them from pundits for example is immediately smacked down with them forced to apologize, look at Jermaine Jenas yesterday, he was the only voice calling out the ref for his bias towards Woolwich, and he's clearly been "instructed" to apologize the next day.

Referees across football history have consistently been corrupt yet even now in 2023 it's still not a problem of the past.
 
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I accessed a very interesting research paper (2021) which looked at unconscious bias in referee decisions, in the Australian Rugby League over a long period of time, citing data from a number of sports, including the Premier League. It is quite thorough and good reading, one can perhaps look at how it does impact refs and speculate on how this can be corrected.

 
As good a place as any, this is shocking!!


View: https://twitter.com/LewishamBoroCFC/status/1713597869628809337?t=jIp1wFZn7_eqsM_Tmt6lNw&s=19

🔵🟡 𝗢𝗙𝗙𝗜𝗖𝗜𝗔𝗟 𝗖𝗟𝗨𝗕 𝗦𝗧𝗔𝗧𝗘𝗠𝗘𝗡𝗧

The Club wants to express its disappointment and frustration with the events that took place during our Kent Senior Trophy fixture against Lordswood FC yesterday (Saturday 14 October).

In the 68th minute, with Lewisham Borough leading 3-2, the referee showed a yellow card to one of our players for an infringement. Following a conversation with the opposition bench, the referee then proceeded to show a red card to the player in question and dismiss him from the field of play - seemingly under the impression that he had already been cautioned, which he had not.

In real time, it appeared that there had been a case of ‘mistaken identity’. The player shown a ‘second’ yellow card was playing in a similar position to another of our players who had been booked in the first half - both are young black men.

Despite the best efforts of our coaching staff and players to highlight this error to the referee, they were ignored and dismissed. Our coaching staff were refused the courtesy of a pitch-side conversation with the referee that had been afforded to the opposition bench.

It was later confirmed by the match day referee assessor in attendance that the player shown a ‘second’ yellow card had not previously been cautioned. After the match, the match day assessor spoke to the officials privately in their dressing room. The tone and attitude of the referee towards our manager was markedly different after this conversation had taken place and the mistake had been highlighted to him by a third party. The referee offered an apology for the decision and admitted there had been a case of ‘mistaken identity’.

𝗪𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝗯𝗼𝗱𝘆 𝗶𝗻 𝗳𝗼𝗼𝘁𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗲𝗻, 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺.

No apology can change the fact that we were unfairly penalised and forced to play with 10 players for the remainder of the second half and the duration of extra time, with Lordswood going on to win the tie 5-3.

It also fails to address a number of questions about the decision-making process and the treatment of our staff and players by the officials.

◼️ Why were the numbers of the players cautioned not properly recorded in the referee’s notebook or by the assistant referees, as per standard protocol?

◼️ Why did a conversation with the opposition bench take place before the referee made the decision to show our player a ‘second’ yellow card?

◼️ Why were our coaching staff not afforded the same opportunity to speak to the referee about the decision in real time, as they sought in good faith to correct this error?

Lewisham Borough CFC is a community club in a diverse part of south east London and we pride ourselves upon being an inclusive club which embraces our entire community. Our committee, fans, playing and coaching staff are a celebration of this diversity and our bench is heavily reflective of the community that we represent.

Staff, players and fans in attendance were left feeling that there was an element of unconscious bias in the way that they game was officiated and the incident managed.

Football should be for everyone and no individual or group should feel that they have been treated differently because of their identity. It is disappointing that this is the way that we have been made to feel, as a community club from a diverse area.

We will be exploring all possible avenues to ensure the issues highlighted are properly addressed. We do this in the hope that incidents like this are not repeated in the future and that no player or coach is subject to unfair treatment because of their identity.

We thank Lordwood FC for their support and wish them every success in the competition.

𝗟𝗲𝘄𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗺 𝗕𝗼𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗙𝗼𝗼𝘁𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗖𝗹𝘂𝗯

@KentFA @FA
 
Re: OP...... Consistency is FAR more of an issue than impartiality.

Ironically; where Rugby is currently routinely cited as a shining example to football officiating; critics are complaining about inconsistency during the rugger world cup too.

Answer lies in how the powers that be can make subjective decisions more routine.... Is that even possible?
 
As good a place as any, this is shocking!!


View: https://twitter.com/LewishamBoroCFC/status/1713597869628809337?t=jIp1wFZn7_eqsM_Tmt6lNw&s=19

🔵🟡 𝗢𝗙𝗙𝗜𝗖𝗜𝗔𝗟 𝗖𝗟𝗨𝗕 𝗦𝗧𝗔𝗧𝗘𝗠𝗘𝗡𝗧

The Club wants to express its disappointment and frustration with the events that took place during our Kent Senior Trophy fixture against Lordswood FC yesterday (Saturday 14 October).

In the 68th minute, with Lewisham Borough leading 3-2, the referee showed a yellow card to one of our players for an infringement. Following a conversation with the opposition bench, the referee then proceeded to show a red card to the player in question and dismiss him from the field of play - seemingly under the impression that he had already been cautioned, which he had not.

In real time, it appeared that there had been a case of ‘mistaken identity’. The player shown a ‘second’ yellow card was playing in a similar position to another of our players who had been booked in the first half - both are young black men.

Despite the best efforts of our coaching staff and players to highlight this error to the referee, they were ignored and dismissed. Our coaching staff were refused the courtesy of a pitch-side conversation with the referee that had been afforded to the opposition bench.

It was later confirmed by the match day referee assessor in attendance that the player shown a ‘second’ yellow card had not previously been cautioned. After the match, the match day assessor spoke to the officials privately in their dressing room. The tone and attitude of the referee towards our manager was markedly different after this conversation had taken place and the mistake had been highlighted to him by a third party. The referee offered an apology for the decision and admitted there had been a case of ‘mistaken identity’.

𝗪𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝗯𝗼𝗱𝘆 𝗶𝗻 𝗳𝗼𝗼𝘁𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗲𝗻, 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺.

No apology can change the fact that we were unfairly penalised and forced to play with 10 players for the remainder of the second half and the duration of extra time, with Lordswood going on to win the tie 5-3.

It also fails to address a number of questions about the decision-making process and the treatment of our staff and players by the officials.

◼️ Why were the numbers of the players cautioned not properly recorded in the referee’s notebook or by the assistant referees, as per standard protocol?

◼️ Why did a conversation with the opposition bench take place before the referee made the decision to show our player a ‘second’ yellow card?

◼️ Why were our coaching staff not afforded the same opportunity to speak to the referee about the decision in real time, as they sought in good faith to correct this error?

Lewisham Borough CFC is a community club in a diverse part of south east London and we pride ourselves upon being an inclusive club which embraces our entire community. Our committee, fans, playing and coaching staff are a celebration of this diversity and our bench is heavily reflective of the community that we represent.

Staff, players and fans in attendance were left feeling that there was an element of unconscious bias in the way that they game was officiated and the incident managed.

Football should be for everyone and no individual or group should feel that they have been treated differently because of their identity. It is disappointing that this is the way that we have been made to feel, as a community club from a diverse area.

We will be exploring all possible avenues to ensure the issues highlighted are properly addressed. We do this in the hope that incidents like this are not repeated in the future and that no player or coach is subject to unfair treatment because of their identity.

We thank Lordwood FC for their support and wish them every success in the competition.

𝗟𝗲𝘄𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗺 𝗕𝗼𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗙𝗼𝗼𝘁𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗖𝗹𝘂𝗯

@KentFA @FA


The 3 highlighted questions are rightly at the forefront of the matter.......

The rest of the statement falls someway short of substantiating their underlying insinuations that it was somehow racially motivated though. It's not impossible that 2 players - whatever their skin colour - can look alike........ Or that the ref was simply shit.
 
Simple answer is NO, big clubs influence is too much, and Ref continually show bias towards them, you would have tough after VAR this is be negated quite alot, but it seems its still BAU Business As Usual for bias to continue. This also includes the media too, who seem very complicit
 
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Spoken like a Manager who sits rock bottom in the League with a record of LLDLLLLL on 1 point!
Yeah, fair. But he seems a fairly level headed guy. Even in the heat of the moment he was trying to converse rationally with the officials. And personally I fucking hate the ability for an opponent to just run into the keeper from a corner with zero interest in the ball. A free kick is given for backing into an opponent on a high ball when both players are technically vying for the ball. How it's then not a free kick from a corner when literally the only purpose of the action is to shift advantage is beyond me. Standing with the keeper is one thing. Physically running into them? Not for me.
 
There is always an unconscious bias. Some people have it worse than others. But we don't know what it is for or why exactly. As an example, Wright and Keane talk about certain referees who were more likely to book them because they weren't traditional establishment white English gentlemen or whatever.

Other referees it may be because they are from up north and hate the south, or they book a player with long hair for no reason because their wife left them for a man with long hair or they are bald or whatever. I don't know. It doesn't always make rational sense, and it isn't always related to football either.

Allen Iverson was targetted a lot by officials in the NBA and they would actively conspire to rig games against him because of his attire or his hair or the perception of his attitude even in just one moment of a previous game. It happens in health services and police services too to a lot of innocent people.

In football with VAR, you'd think it'd stop poor decisions but it doesn't because the people behind VAR are looking for ways to prove the referee right. Even in Formula 1, the stewards at one race take a completely different view to the stewards at the next race and the appeals don't work even when they are clear as day.
 
I thought the ref was our best 'player' yesterday... He certainly did more to help us than the *lazy/complacent/arrogant/ inept/characterless dickheads wearing white!

*Delete as applicable...
...or better still, apply it to the entire team (except Moore, he's exempt for a few more years!)
 
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