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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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This club needs a rebuild. We all agree on that atleast.

But it appears that most fans can't handle the reality of a rebuild and what it includes. We are in the process of one and we are more unpredictable than ever. Just chill out. Let the season unravel and judge Ange in May. Sacking him and starting again doesn't work.
Again! I’ve seen too many and it ends up exactly the same. This will go the same way.
 
This club needs a rebuild. We all agree on that atleast.

But it appears that most fans can't handle the reality of a rebuild and what it includes. We are in the process of one and we are more unpredictable than ever. Just chill out. Let the season unravel and judge Ange in May. Sacking him and starting again doesn't work.
Its a perpetual rebuild. It never bloody stops. Son, Forster, Davies, Werner out of contract in the summer. Bissouma and Bentancur 1 year left so we'll probably be looking to move them on, rumours about Romero and Porro, probably look to move on Richarlison and Spence. So thats another massive rebuild on the horizon. Sacking managers and starting again can often work otherwise no one would ever do it.
 
People here saying we need X, or Y to make his system work.

Ask yourself this. Could you imagine him going to City, Liverpool, Arse, Chelsea, Newcastle, Villa or Brighton and even managing to keep them at the level they are at?

Seriously. You all seem to think we have a poor squad and he needs backing, well, those teams are all above us so must, by your own logic, have better squads.
So would he be able to maintain or improve any of them?

Do you mean pretty much the exact same level we are at?

There are 4 points between 3 & 12th - We might be unable to maintain any consistency but so is everyone else bar Liverpool.

Doesnt excuse Ange but we have been so inconsistent this season and 3rd is only 3 points ahead of us..... they arent doing well either.
 
People here saying we need X, or Y to make his system work.

Ask yourself this. Could you imagine him going to City, Liverpool, Arse, Chelsea, Newcastle, Villa or Brighton and even managing to keep them at the level they are at?

Seriously. You all seem to think we have a poor squad and he needs backing, well, those teams are all above us so must, by your own logic, have better squads.
So would he be able to maintain or improve any of them?
i said before, he doesnt win the league with any side in this league and teams worse than us he gets relegated. hes shockingly bad, its actually mental how hes fucking manager of spurs.

his system is utter turd. even if you want to play a front 3 that consists of son and johnson, you need to counter their lack of ball retention by having 2 sitting midfielders that will protect and screen the defence when they inevitably do lose it. this clown has one sitting, and on top of that wants to employ possession based tactics with wingers that are counter attacking players loool. soak it all up because this is the dumbest shit youll ever see from a football a manager in your life. then youve got the defence all at sea when we lose the ball because he wants the fucking FB's to be major components in attack LOOOL.

its going to be a bright day when this moron gets fucked off.

subs arent important
set pieces arent important

the list goes on. biggest fucking clown in football. it has to be a windup!
 
Almost 5 years since Poch was sacked. He had less points after 10 games, but his only losses were Vs better teams than Ipswich and Palace. And he had overseen a Champions League final a few months before so had charity in the bank.

Poch was sacked when Levy had the option of appointing his GOAT Jose Mourinho. A situation like that is unlikely to come back.
 
14 pts from 12 games when sacked. I mean with City next so likely 16 pts from 12 games. Similar and Poch had a ton of credit in the bank and a much tougher start.

Again i just cant make it make sense. Only things i can think of is a) He doesnt have the first clue what to do with a replacement b) He's waiting for this investment so he can hide a sacking behind that or c) The crowd havent fully turned yet so why make a payout before the abuse lands at his door
I think Postecoglou was a good hire for Levy in that he was giving fans the attacking football they wanted and a likeable distraction at a time when Spurs were losing Harry Kane. It didn't hurt that those things gave him cover to not add a lot of payroll during a rebuild with younger players. To be fair, he also might have believed that Postecoglou's system would bring wins faster than what they've come. It sure looked like initially that was going to be the case. Also, from Levy's perspective, if you've gotten the attention off you why would you want to fire Postecoglou and have people saying it was another failed hire? I think he'll give Postecoglou this season and next. Who knows, things might eventually work out.
 
None of our players are interested in defending. You can see it from the whole back line apart from maybe vdv, though he's often caught out too. Udogie and porro are dreadful and barely even get a foot in. Romero doesn't have that fire either recently. Further forward, the wide players do no tracking back and getting involved. It's just not a priority for Ange. When teams come to us, they tend to defend for their lives, at least until we get the first goal and they have to open up a bit more. Look at the first goal yesterday, Johnson just completely bottling any kind of challenge. Constantly just jogging back. You need that fire from these players not wanting to lose, putting bodies on the line when they need to. SOME FACKIN PASHUN wouldn't go amiss.

I understand the you score one, we'll score two way of thinking, but when they go and score two you're in big trouble. It's just not a sustainable way of playing. I remember under conte when we were constantly going in at half time a goal down for what seemed like half the season, only to turn it around in the second half. It wasn't sustainable then and it hasn't changed. Of course we are going to lose games, and lose games against teams we shouldn't, that's football. But to put this performance in against Ipswich 2 weeks after what happened at palace is pathetic.

The thing is, I like Ange and I really want him to succeed, and he seems to have learned some lessons from last season. Our set piece defending is largely ok now, still look a bit ropey at times but we've been fine for the most part. It's just evolved into shocking wide defending and just abysmal individual errors. How many goals have we conceded this season from crosses? Must be well over half, possibly 2/3rds? It's just so painful watching us do the same thing over and over and over. I want to keep the faith, as the good times have been really good, but the type of bad results against the types of teams we've played this season are a huge cause for concern for me. I'm growing less and less sure that he's the man to be able to deliver.
 
I think Postecoglou was a good hire for Levy in that he was giving fans the attacking football they wanted and a likeable distraction at a time when Spurs were losing Harry Kane. It didn't hurt that those things gave him cover to not add a lot of payroll during a rebuild with younger players. To be fair, he also might have believed that Postecoglou's system would bring wins faster than what they've come. It sure looked like initially that was going to be the case. Also, from Levy's perspective, if you've gotten the attention off you why would you want to fire Postecoglou and have people saying it was another failed hire? I think he'll give Postecoglou this season and next. Who knows, things might eventually work out.
I really cant see it. I think we're probably a battering at City or a home defeat to Fulham from pulling the plug. It really wouldnt take much now as a lot of the initial goodwill has been eroded. If we're down in 12th to 14th, which i think is likely, in the next 2 to 6 weeks then he's stuffed.
 
I really cant see it. I think we're probably a battering at City or a home defeat to Fulham from pulling the plug. It really wouldnt take much now as a lot of the initial goodwill has been eroded. If we're down in 12th to 14th, which i think is likely, in the next 2 to 6 weeks then he's stuffed.
Whats the panic though? Give me the logic behind sacking Ange mid season for a new manager. Worst case scenario is we finish mid table outside of European spots with no cup wins. That's exactly what happened 2 years ago so hardly a horrific scenario. So I can't see why Levy would panic and sack him mid season. We aren't going to get relegated
 
I really cant see it. I think we're probably a battering at City or a home defeat to Fulham from pulling the plug. It really wouldnt take much now as a lot of the initial goodwill has been eroded. If we're down in 12th to 14th, which i think is likely, in the next 2 to 6 weeks then he's stuffed.
The short term memory of many fans is bizarre isn't it? The kind of people who say "He's not getting sacked this season lol" or believe reports that "The manager is under no pressure". Levy and Pochettino went on holidays together. They were as pally as a chairman and manager can be, and we still sacked him earlier than people thought was conceivable. There's no such thing as a Tottenham manager that's safe from the sack.
 
Whats the panic though? Give me the logic behind sacking Ange mid season for a new manager. Worst case scenario is we finish mid table outside of European spots with no cup wins. That's exactly what happened 2 years ago so hardly a horrific scenario. So I can't see why Levy would panic and sack him mid season. We aren't going to get relegated
Same scenario with every sacking apart from Ramos. None of them were taking us down. Levy panics when the stick starts or there is disinterest kicking in. He still has a stadium to fill, sponsorships to sell and rightly (for once) wont tolerate lower mid table.
 
Whats the panic though? Give me the logic behind sacking Ange mid season for a new manager. Worst case scenario is we finish mid table outside of European spots with no cup wins. That's exactly what happened 2 years ago so hardly a horrific scenario. So I can't see why Levy would panic and sack him mid season. We aren't going to get relegated
Why would you not think that is horrific? You can’t be a Tottenham supporter
 
must say how much I am disapointed so far with Bergval .Trumpeted as one of the best young players in Europe and Real Madrid wanted him but so far he looks way off.He is young but a lot of youngsters show more than he is at the moment.
Pal, get real. He's a kid. Living in a new country, away from his family & entourage, having to adapt to a new culture. And on the football side, he's gone from the Swedish league (probably Champo/League One level) to the mighty, unforgiving PL...that's a heck of a jump. The lad's hardly had a kick. Mainly, his manager hasn't really generated the best environment for him (or Archie & other younguns)...he's getting crap minutes in poor games, the level of coaching at the club is seriously up for debate, and he's surrounded by way too many mediocre senior pros with a bad attitude.

Yeah, go figure how he's not reached KDB highs yet. He must be shit.
 
I really cant see it. I think we're probably a battering at City or a home defeat to Fulham from pulling the plug. It really wouldnt take much now as a lot of the initial goodwill has been eroded. If we're down in 12th to 14th, which i think is likely, in the next 2 to 6 weeks then he's stuffed.
he should of been sacked this morning. the little run of beating european shithouses and coventry just delayed the inevitable.

hes lost the dressing room anyway and he knows it. thats why the shouting on the sideline stopped a while ago, they aint on board for this charlatan and he knows it.
 
Who knows, things might eventually work out.
We're getting what we're going to get under Ange and ENIC. It could be worse, but it's like a recurring frustrating dream.

Some great attacking displays, often more entertaining than under Jose and Conte murder ball. A European tour most seasons (a good thing, not knocking it). Lots of inconsistency and shit results too. The odd interesting signing, some more youngsters with potential. Ultimately winning nowt and finishing somewhere 5-8th, 4th if the dominos fall very fortuitously.

Maybe we'll really push on and get Ed Sheeran or Taylor Swift in the summer. Pretty underwhelmed by Catfish and the Bottlemen tbh.
 
Whats the panic though? Give me the logic behind sacking Ange mid season for a new manager. Worst case scenario is we finish mid table outside of European spots with no cup wins. That's exactly what happened 2 years ago so hardly a horrific scenario. So I can't see why Levy would panic and sack him mid season. We aren't going to get relegated
erm.... to potentially salvage a season while you still can instead of watching it just die. if you think this club are doing anything with this clown in charge you are dangerously stupid.
 
Whats the panic though? Give me the logic behind sacking Ange mid season for a new manager. Worst case scenario is we finish mid table outside of European spots with no cup wins. That's exactly what happened 2 years ago so hardly a horrific scenario. So I can't see why Levy would panic and sack him mid season. We aren't going to get relegated
For what it’s worth I don’t think we’ll sack Ange this season. I’m think we’ll be up and down and for some reason I think we will win a cup this season. I just want the manager to play more than one way. Yes he has to have belief in how he wants his team to play but as has been shown so far it won’t always work. Why does he think continuing with something that isn’t working at least 75% of the time is a good idea.
If he doesn’t change he’s gone at the end of the season.
 
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