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Management Ange Postecoglou

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SeeSpotRun said:
The Ange-Outers are very vocal here after a loss and are perhaps over-represented in "the room". After a win it's different.

If you look at the corresponding thread on another Spurs message board you'll get a more positive vibe. That's probably skewed by censorship: too much vitriol gets you perma-banned over there apparently. But then the banned come to TFC which means they are always going to be over-represented here.
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don't agree with a lot of us here who want him out are long term members on this forum, i post on here win lose or draw, when I feel moved to do so.
I've wanted this guy out from November last year, I've not supported him since his remarks after the chelsea game in October last year
 
The only time I ever see Ange animated is to confront Spurs fans or when he’s talking about himself to the media.

Genuinely one of the most unlikable managers in football. The contempt he has for Spurs is shocking. Iv seen gooner managers treat us with more respect.

And this guy thought he was good even to manage Liverpool. Delusional.
 
glacierSpurs said:
So right. Some of our fans are so precious. Ange didn't ask for the song. He didn't ask for his name to be sang - he specifically said that in the 1st month of his tenure he rather his name being sang ONLY after he won something with us. Yet some of our fans are like fucking babies, but actually adults being so thick and dense, so quickly to fall in love with him, and now so quickly to hate him. Again, let me reiterate that this is not a love for Ange, it could be anyone. People literally couldn't separate the support for Ange, or support for Tottenham Hotspur manager. Some of our fans are the actual cunts. And those in here, we know who you are.
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Don't worry mate. There are a few "special" fans waiting for a thumping against the racist Chavs to prove a point. It's their need to go back to the glory days 10-20 years ago.... Ohhh wait

I've been on this site for going on 8 years, and the disdain toward Ange started from day one. We are too big for a guy like Ange. They see a clickbait headline, and damn him on what he said, only to have not read the entire statement. The handful of "supporters" who post frantically after a loss, almost beaming is most revealing. I repeat it's only a handful. I can debate with 90% of the posters here on the pro's and con's of Ange.

Anyway, I will be looking forward to the game and wishing for a result.
If the toxicity remains Ange will be gone. Levy will pull the trigger and the handful I mention will get their wish.
If I didn't love the Club as I do, a part of me wants us to sign a Howe or Potter to watch the meltdown after 1 year or so.
 
I'm an old fashion guy I want my defenders to be able to defend, I like players who point the fingers when thing go wrong
I want FB's to defend & put in Crosses
I want wingers going passed a player and put in cross/pass in/around the box
I want us playing to the players strength
I want to be able to see players are being coached

What I see under is manager is playground football, not playing to players strengths, etc
 
marxoulis said:
Some interesting data from the club's site

June, 2023June, 2022
£m£m
Match Receipts117.6106.1
UEFA Prize Money56.210.2
TV and Media148.1144.2
Commercial227.7183.5
Total Revenue549.6444.0
Profit from Operations138.7112.3
Loss for the period86.850.1

  • The loss for the year after depreciation, amortisation, player trading, interest and taxation was £86.8m (2022: £50.1m), reflecting the significant and continued investment in the playing squad
  • Our net debt at 30 June was £677.4m (2022: £626.1m). Over 90% of our financial borrowings of £851.2m, are at fixed rates, with an average interest rate of 2.79%. The average maturity of all our borrowings is 19.4 years, some of which stretch until 2051
  • As with prior years no dividends have been paid
I don't know what to think. Is actually ENIC not making any money from the club? Do they really lose tens of millions each year? Should we feel sorry about them? I don't like the idea.
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I think if you feel sorry for Joe Lewis and ENIC and the “state” of their finances you might have some serious issues.

And I don’t see a “feed Daniel Levy” charity appeal doing that well this Xmas. But I’m looking forward to the song now.
 
McCOYS said:
What he did with Celtic has to be taken into the context of, at the time they were the best team anyway.

We have an average top ten team.
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West Ham have better players than us. Finishing fifth, when the cunt sold our captain and best player and didn’t replace him, was the bets managerial achievement of any Spurs manager in the last fifty years
 
McCOYS said:
What he did with Celtic has to be taken into the context of, at the time they were the best team anyway.

We have an average top ten team.
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Yep. That league is a joke. Celtic have basically won their league already and we've only just got in to december. His first 10 league games with us were great but since then its been so frustratingly inconsistent.

What I don;t want to happen is ryan mason taking over for the season, if ange gets the boot, because we're just going round in circles.
 
Sir Ledders said:
Yep. That league is a joke. Celtic have basically won their league already and we've only just got in to december. His first 10 league games with us were great but since then its been so frustratingly inconsistent.

What I don;t want to happen is ryan mason taking over for the season, if ange gets the boot, because we're just going round in circles.
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Bald weasel has to issue partial refunds to ST holders after the criminal negligence of the last window. This will be what, the seventh season we’ve ended the season with a caretaker due to his gross incompetence.
 
glacierSpurs said:
So right. Some of our fans are so precious. Ange didn't ask for the song. He didn't ask for his name to be sang - he specifically said that in the 1st month of his tenure he rather his name being sang ONLY after he won something with us. Yet some of our fans are like fucking babies, but actually adults being so thick and dense, so quickly to fall in love with him, and now so quickly to hate him. Again, let me reiterate that this is not a love for Ange, it could be anyone. People literally couldn't separate the support for Ange, or support for Tottenham Hotspur manager. Some of our fans are the actual cunts. And those in here, we know who you are.
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Just football isn’t it.
Have you ever been to a football match??

“Get your tits out for the lads”. You just have heard this at some point??

You’re not talking Nobel prize winners here. It’s a working class sport. Or it was.
 
Mostly wrong said:
I think we are big enough to pluck Marco Silva or Iraola even mid-season if we offered them big money and were willing to pay out their compo, I think either would have us much better coached than we are under Ange and both are working miracles with their respective squads.
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Yeah we are but let's be honest managing Fulham and Bournemouth is completely different to managing us.

Iraola couldn't win a game at the start of last season, it wasn't until around November/December time they turned into a half decent side. Imagine that happened here? You'd have fans wanting him out after 5 games.

Marco Silva has been at Fulham 4 years now, so he has had plenty of time to implement his style.

In a way you need to have more trust in what's happening and see the bigger picture, those fans that were abusing Ange were the same ones probably having the time of their lives against Man City 2 weeks ago and yet only the other night they were turning things toxic.

I've said time and time again on here I don't think Ange is the messiah, but fans don't have any patience anymore. Even last season after finishing as the 5th best team in the league we had posters on here moaning about stuff.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
Those are accounting losses. ENIC are not losing money out of their own pocket each year.

Operating profit was 62m but net position from player sales was -112m.

We started the financial year with 227m in cash and made 106m from operations and spent 157m meaning a net cash position at year end of 174m. Definitely room to push the boat out a bit more on signings.

While they are not taking an annual yield from the company they are benefitting from the ever increasing value of the club which will be crystalised once they sell up.

So no, we shouldn't feel sorry for them.
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That's what I suspected too. So, they plan to eventually sell.
The question is when and to whom.
 
JimothyCF14 said:
And before that Celtic had won nine in a row, and have won it three times since. Rangers are currently third. Let's not pretend Celtic have any serious competition, come on now.
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It's not unreasonable to say that any one of the current 20 PL managers would have probably won the SPL title managing Celtic over Ange's tenure.
Which kind of puts his achievements up there in to some kind of context.
 
glacierSpurs said:
So right. Some of our fans are so precious. Ange didn't ask for the song. He didn't ask for his name to be sang - he specifically said that in the 1st month of his tenure he rather his name being sang ONLY after he won something with us. Yet some of our fans are like fucking babies, but actually adults being so thick and dense, so quickly to fall in love with him, and now so quickly to hate him. Again, let me reiterate that this is not a love for Ange, it could be anyone. People literally couldn't separate the support for Ange, or support for Tottenham Hotspur manager. Some of our fans are the actual cunts. And those in here, we know who you are.
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Yep, it's why I'm coming round to accepting that finishing 10th and somehow fluke our way to a trophy is the only thing that will actually cure some fans anger towards certain aspects of supporting their football club which in the long run might actually help.
 
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