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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Right, because that never happens under other management.

I cannot fathom the notion that our chances of winning a trophy this season are better making a midseason change, and it is obvious that our options for starting (yet another pointless and fake) long term project are not what they will be come the summer.

So what are we talking about? THIS is a terminal death spiral of form? This is not in our top 10 form death spirals of the last decade, what is everyone on about?
Our worst spiral in living memory came after we sacked Conte and put in Stellini then Mason.

So yeah... it can get better but it can definitely get worse and probably will. We are Spurs :D
 
I'd take Tim Sherwood over the bumbling idiot we've got in charge right now
All I'm hearing is it's Moyes Times
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All the more reason not to throw the toys out of the pram the moment you hit a bump in the road.

You're going to buy the manager a bunch of teenagers in the summer and then sack him while still fighting on four fronts?

Make that make sense.

We’re already down to three fronts, not four. Our league season is over.

Let’s see in two weeks if we are still in the EL and Carabao. Then a decision will be made by Levy.
 
Can't believe I am still seeing people say it isn't the managers fault, and we should stick with him.

He has shown he is utterly incapable of managing or coaching a competitive PL side. We are a shambles.

Today Chelsea dominated us. We only scored from two of their slips / fuck ups.

We had a couple of other moments but Chelsea battered us. We were outplayed again just days ago at Bournemouth. What about Fulham. Ipswich. Thats just in the last few weeks.

The penny won't drop with some of you because sorry to say you have no clue basically. It's staring you right in the face and you are in capable of reading the signs for some bizarre reason.

Ange is nowhere near good enough, he's a fraud.

Do we as a club have issues? sure. But our side is much better than what it is showing under Ange. Someone like Iraola would do a far better job here than this useless Aussie is, it's not even up for debate.

So would Frank and Silva. 90% of the other PL managers would do a better job. I even think Dyche would you know, which is mental to say. He's have us harder to beat for sure.

This weird fanboy behaviour some Spurs fans have with Ange is bizarre and needs to end now.

It’s all over social media too. Staring everyone in the face. I dread another managerial search and know levy will fuck it up but we are a joke at the moment. I can’t see us winning another game. We have one fit centre back!
 
The moment Ange said “it’s who we are” after we lost 4-1 against Chelsea with the suicidal high line with nine men I knew he wasn’t a serious person.

Question is who comes next? I fear whoever it is is doomed by Levy’s constraints.
 
Right, because that never happens under other management.

I cannot fathom the notion that our chances of winning a trophy this season are better making a midseason change, and it is obvious that our options for starting (yet another pointless and fake) long term project are not what they will be come the summer.

So what are we talking about? THIS is a terminal death spiral of form? This is not in our top 10 form death spirals of the last decade, what is everyone on about?
Our last two trophies came from mid-season changes and we certainly wouldn't have won the first of those had Christian Gross remained in charge. Today's opponents won the Champions League with a mid season change after being on the brink of a European exit.
 
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All the more reason not to throw the toys out of the pram the moment you hit a bump in the road.

You're going to buy the manager a bunch of teenagers in the summer and then sack him while still fighting on four fronts?

Make that make sense.

In what way we are fighting on for fronts? Our PL season is in freefall. We are going to lose to United in the QF, we will lose in Europe as soon as we play a decent side, and Rangers will probably turn us over on Thursday.

I can't see us even beating Tamworth at the moment. I mean would anyone really be shocked if we lost there?

It's nonsense to keep a manager who is out of his depth just because the season is still going.
 
I remember i voiced my initial doubts about Ange after the Chelsea game last season where he played the amateur high line with 9 men (and eric dier in defence) but the responses to it on here and in the media generally were so positive it made me think I was just being too harsh.

His style of play requires no actual thought process. He's made me fall out of love with watching us because I'm almost certain any Tom Dick and Harry from the street can 'coach' the team to play the exact same way and I see absolutely no skill to it. You attack...OK our turn to attack...OK mate your turn now...ours again.

with a bit of luck we can still do something in the cups so please Spurs don't leave it to late.
 
I remember i voiced my initial doubts about Ange after the Chelsea game last season where he played the amateur high line with 9 men (and eric dier in defence) but the responses to it on here and in the media generally were so positive it made me think I was just being too harsh.

His style of play requires no actual thought process. He's made me fall out of love with watching us because I'm almost certain any Tom Dick and Harry from the street can 'coach' the team to play the exact same way and I see absolutely no skill to it. You attack...OK our turn to attack...OK mate your turn now...ours again.

with a bit of luck we can still do something in the cups so please Spurs don't leave it to late.
“Suicide ball” is how another fan described it to me today.
 
I remember i voiced my initial doubts about Ange after the Chelsea game last season where he played the amateur high line with 9 men (and eric dier in defence) but the responses to it on here and in the media generally were so positive it made me think I was just being too harsh.

His style of play requires no actual thought process. He's made me fall out of love with watching us because I'm almost certain any Tom Dick and Harry from the street can 'coach' the team to play the exact same way and I see absolutely no skill to it. You attack...OK our turn to attack...OK mate your turn now...ours again.

with a bit of luck we can still do something in the cups so please Spurs don't leave it to late.

At the time I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I thought the bloke was a clown for what he did that game, but a part of me hoped I was wrong and he was a genius.

With hindsight looking back at it, it was clear this was a sign of things to come. The bloke is an embarassment and absolutely clueless.
 
It’s genuinely fascinating how some supporters seem ready to proclaim the apocalypse at our club should Ange be shown the door, as if he’s the final roll of the managerial dice and no one else in world football could possibly be entrusted with rebuilding this team. It’s the footballing equivalent of declaring the sun will never rise again should he depart—a dramatic overestimation, to say the least.

The devotion is, quite frankly, cult-like. And no, that’s not hyperbole anymore; it’s a serious observation now, I have never seen a manager at this club be so highly rated for doing so little; his tenure has become something akin to scripture—sacred, immune to critique, and alarmingly detached from the hard evidence staring us in the face, this idea that he will improve and this team will improve under him is entirely divorced from observable reality at this point, when will the penny drop for some of you?

WHEN his time with us inevitably ends (and it will), he might genuinely consider founding a religion lol, I am being sincere here as well.

The man clearly has a gift for rallying unwavering discipleship, even when the path he’s leading them down seems destined to dead-end in mediocrity and broken promises.

Perhaps it’s the allure of a charismatic grifter offering comforting fictions—a footballing pied piper for those in need of a figure to follow and adore, (like a father figure to some I imagine) regardless of whether his "hymns" lead to triumph or torment.

:ange-arms:

The idea that Ange is "a decent bloke" is pure, unfiltered copium. Let’s call it what it is: a fallacy. Time and again, his so-called geniality has been overshadowed by his passive-aggressive tendencies, thinly veiled insecurity, and a stubborn ego that refuses to acknowledge fault or adapt. The mask has slipped too many times to buy into the “nice guy” myth any longer.

Take today as yet another prime example. He deflected blame onto injuries yet again to explain away the shortcomings of his system and in-game management. We were 2-0 up, a more pragmatic, tactically astute manager—one with less hubris—would have adjusted, closed the game out or at least changed the strategy, and taken all 3 points or at the very least, a point. Instead, we got yet another demonstration of his one-dimensional, tragically predictable “Ange Ball,” a philosophy seemingly allergic to evolution or nuance; but you know it's "entertaining" right? LOL, what is entertaining about it exactly? Please tell me...

Oh, and about those injuries he’s crying about? Let’s not forget that he rushed players like Romero and Van de Ven back into action prematurely, likely exacerbating their conditions and sidelining them for even longer just to try and save his own bacon (shock) great news for a club in multiple comps isn't it?

And as for the replacement for Romero? We paid a hefty sum for Drags services, but suddenly, he’s not good enough Ange? It's all on Romero? Have we not lost multiple winnable games this season with both Romero and VDV fit? Curious logic, isn’t it people?

Perhaps the real injury we’re dealing with is Ange’s fragile ego—it’s proving far more detrimental to the team than anything else at this club currently, the only one who supersedes him in the failure olympics is Levy but even he can't be blamed for the awful results we have seen this season.

Shocking state of affairs.
 
We are going to lose to United in the QF, we will lose in Europe as soon as we play a decent side, and Rangers will probably turn us over on Thursday.
Is any of that true?

Why not find out first?

Are we making repeated similar mistakes to lose games? Absolutely. Are those things directly attributable to Ange's inflexibility? Absolutely.

But we are still generating rafts of chances. I have seen lost-the-dressing-room, sack-imminent form. This is not that.
 
ApllaussIt’s genuinely fascinating how some supporters seem ready to proclaim the apocalypse at our club should Ange be shown the door, as if he’s the final roll of the managerial dice and no one else in world football could possibly be entrusted with rebuilding this team. It’s the footballing equivalent of declaring the sun will never rise again should he depart—a dramatic overestimation, to say the least.

The devotion is, quite frankly, cult-like. And no, that’s not hyperbole anymore; it’s a serious observation now, I have never seen a manager at this club be so highly rated for doing so little; his tenure has become something akin to scripture—sacred, immune to critique, and alarmingly detached from the hard evidence staring us in the face, this idea that he will improve and this team will improve under him is entirely divorced from observable reality at this point, when will the hammer drop for some of you?

WHEN his time with us inevitably ends (and it will), he might genuinely consider founding a religion lol, I am being sincere here as well.

The man clearly has a gift for rallying unwavering discipleship, even when the path he’s leading them down seems destined to dead-end in mediocrity and broken promises.

Perhaps it’s the allure of a charismatic grifter offering comforting fictions—a footballing pied piper for those in need of a figure to follow and adore, like a father figure regardless of whether his "hymns" lead to triumph or torment :ange-arms: .

The idea that Ange is "a decent bloke" is pure, unfiltered copium. Let’s call it what it is: a fallacy. Time and again, his so-called geniality has been overshadowed by his passive-aggressive tendencies, thinly veiled insecurity, and a stubborn ego that refuses to acknowledge fault or adapt. The mask has slipped too many times to buy into the “nice guy” myth any longer.

Take today as yet another prime example. He deflected blame onto injuries yet again to explain away the shortcomings of his system and in-game management. We were 2-0 up, a more pragmatic, tactically astute manager—one with less hubris—would have adjusted, closed the game out or at least changed the strategy, and taken all 3 points or at the very least, a point. Instead, we got yet another demonstration of his one-dimensional, tragically predictable “Ange Ball,” a philosophy seemingly allergic to evolution or nuance; but you know it's "entertaining" right? LOL, what is entertaining about it exactly? Please tell me...

Oh, and about those injuries he’s crying about? Let’s not forget that he rushed players like Romero and Van de Ven back into action prematurely, likely exacerbating their conditions and sidelining them for even longer just to try and save his own bacon (shock) great news for a club in multiple comps isn't it?

And as for the replacement for Romero? We paid a hefty sum for Drags services, but suddenly, he’s not good enough Ange? It's all on Romero? Have we not lost multiple winnable games this season with both Romero and VDV fit? Curious logic, isn’t it people?

Perhaps the real injury we’re dealing with is Ange’s fragile ego—it’s proving far more detrimental to the team than anything else at this club currently, the only one who supersedes him in the failure olympics is Levy but even he can't be blamed for the awful results we have seen this season.

Shocking state of affairs.
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