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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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What's happened to that guy who used to dominate this thread.
Starks Starks I think it was.
Hope he's OK ?
Starks/Totti the positivity grandstander funnily enough dissapeared after the Ipswich fiasco and hasn't been back since

I was surprised when he didn't return temporarily after the city win

Can no longer grandstand and peddle the "our defence is one of the best in the league" bluster , so I guess there is nothing here for him
 
Does anyone have any idea why we are so chaotic and end to end this season?

Because we didn't do this last season. Does he just not trust the players and thinks this is the only way to get results? Because it isn't. All it does is lead to more injuries which is why I'm starting to lose sympathy for that excuse.
 
Does anyone have any idea why we are so chaotic and end to end this season?

Because we didn't do this last season. Does he just not trust the players and thinks this is the only way to get results? Because it isn't. All it does is lead to more injuries which is why I'm starting to lose sympathy for that excuse.

I said it the other day, I’m not buying the injury excuse. It’s not helping us, but I don’t think it’s the sole reason why we’re struggling.

First game this season against Leicester, we had a fully fit team - threw the game away. Against Brighton in Oct, we were only missing Son, but everyone else was fit - threw the game away. Against Palace in Oct, again still only missing Son - didn’t turn up
 
Well I’m trying to look at the match as it unfolded, not through the Ange Out glasses that most of you have. I mean, if you’re adamant about being negative.
No really no, the reverse of what you're attempting would be to come on here after the City match and claim that we weren't very good and could easily have lost had we scored less and conceded more...

You don't have to actively try to sniff out negatives about Spurs right now, it's like a Dutch Oven of negativity...
 
I said it the other day, I’m not buying the injury excuse. It’s not helping us, but I don’t think it’s the sole reason why we’re struggling.

First game this season against Leicester, we had a fully fit team - threw the game away. Against Brighton in Oct, we were only missing Son, but everyone else was fit - threw the game away. Against Palace in Oct, again still only missing Son - didn’t turn up
Barring Forster I felt that the first XI yesterday was about the best we could put out. Whether VdV and Romero were rushed back is fair to ask - and the bench was very thin.
 
It was enjoyable for one.
I believed we could win any game even behind with 10 minutes to go I believed we could score 3 goals.
Apart from the after the Champions League Final where everyone and his dog knows that Poch and Levy were not speaking because Poch actively refused to sign off on the documentary and was in a general state of malaise because he did not feel he was getting the help he needed in the transfer market.
People posted the battle of the bridge before this game as some kind of inspiration.

The outcome was EXACTLY the same. And that outcome was just as predictable before both games.

We couldn’t win the title against Leicester. Anyone who thinks we weren’t the banter club for Skysports and the FA back then as well it’s just using some selective memory aids.
 
"We were in control of the game...." We were never in control of the fucking game! What planet does he live on?

Yes, we were two up at one stage, but not a single Spurs fan felt comfy and 'in control' at any stage of that match.

Agree

It was chaotic throughout and I suppose a good watch for neutral fans but even at 2-0 you could see that we were going to ship goals

We could have sat further back and invited them on and hit them with counter attacks which we’re good at but no we carried on and sure enough we shipped goals which could have been a lot more were it not for Forster our MotM

Both penalties were avoidable and they should have had a red card but this latest humiliation is squarely down to the fat fraud standing there on the touchline offering nothing!

Get rid!!!
 
I'm thinking, if Mason is a smart man. If he wants to become a top manager he's had Pochettino, Mourinho, Conte and now Postecoglu to learn the trade and the tactics from and should have enough experience from all these 4 coaches to combine this into his own philosophy.

Maybe he's useless, but isn't now the time to step forward and either Jump in again for Ange when he's sacked or to test his wings next season at a lower league.

He's had all the experience needed from arguably some of the best coaches in the world to form his philosophy. It's time to jump in to the deep side and swim.
 
Like many of us, I see Levy as being the stumbling block to not challenging for titles by now, or even cementing regular top four spots.

But the experiment with Ange has simply run its course in my opinion, and he needs to go. I can sympathise with Ange over injuries, brain farts by players, lack of leaders on the pitch, but this open style of play where we simply leave acres of room for opponents to sit off us then pick they’re moments to give us a slap is not good enough. This is top level PL football, not basketball and I can’t see him turning us into anything other than what we are now.

That said, reading the various threads here it’s easy to get drawn into the belief that he is all but done and will be gone today/tomorrow/weekend etc. But reading bits elsewhere, listening to a few ex-players, callers on the radio and so on I don’t think his dismissal is as imminent as some might think. I just caught up with a mate who went yesterday and he said there was a few moans and groans and jeers, as expected, but nothing very toxic and no evidence of baying for Ange’s blood by the crowd. From what he saw anyway.

So Ange may be here for a while yet. My guess is that Levy might start spinning the barrel of the revolver but the next two weeks will decide if and when he pulls the trigger.
 
He did. None of that is success though
It is success though.
Champions league football brings a lot of money and new fans in.

:levystare:

It may not be your definition of success. But I'd bet my left nut that Levy writes a list of objectives and finishing in the top 4 is high, winning a league cup and finishing bottom half is not on it.

That is why Poch lasted 5 years and this fraud coach will be gone before the decorations come down.
 
It’s genuinely fascinating how some supporters seem ready to proclaim the apocalypse at our club should Ange be shown the door, as if he’s the final roll of the managerial dice and no one else in world football could possibly be entrusted with rebuilding this team. It’s the footballing equivalent of declaring the sun will never rise again should he depart—a dramatic overestimation, to say the least.

The devotion is, quite frankly, cult-like. And no, that’s not hyperbole anymore; it’s a serious observation now, I have never seen a manager at this club be so highly rated for doing so little; his tenure has become something akin to scripture—sacred, immune to critique, and alarmingly detached from the hard evidence staring us in the face, this idea that he will improve and this team will improve under him is entirely divorced from observable reality at this point, when will the penny drop for some of you?

WHEN his time with us inevitably ends (and it will), he might genuinely consider founding a religion lol, I am being sincere here as well.

The man clearly has a gift for rallying unwavering discipleship, even when the path he’s leading them down seems destined to dead-end in mediocrity and broken promises.

Perhaps it’s the allure of a charismatic grifter offering comforting fictions—a footballing pied piper for those in need of a figure to follow and adore, (like a father figure to some I imagine) regardless of whether his "hymns" lead to triumph or torment.

:ange-arms:

The idea that Ange is "a decent bloke" is pure, unfiltered copium. Let’s call it what it is: a fallacy. Time and again, his so-called geniality has been overshadowed by his passive-aggressive tendencies, thinly veiled insecurity, and a stubborn ego that refuses to acknowledge fault or adapt. The mask has slipped too many times to buy into the “nice guy” myth any longer.

Take today as yet another prime example. He deflected blame onto injuries yet again to explain away the shortcomings of his system and in-game management. We were 2-0 up, a more pragmatic, tactically astute manager—one with less hubris—would have adjusted, closed the game out or at least changed the strategy, and taken all 3 points or at the very least, a point. Instead, we got yet another demonstration of his one-dimensional, tragically predictable “Ange Ball,” a philosophy seemingly allergic to evolution or nuance; but you know it's "entertaining" right? LOL, what is entertaining about it exactly? Please tell me...

Oh, and about those injuries he’s crying about? Let’s not forget that he rushed players like Romero and Van de Ven back into action prematurely, likely exacerbating their conditions and sidelining them for even longer just to try and save his own bacon (shock) great news for a club in multiple comps isn't it?

And as for the replacement for Romero? We paid a hefty sum for Drags services, but suddenly, he’s not good enough Ange? It's all on Romero? Have we not lost multiple winnable games this season with both Romero and VDV fit? Curious logic, isn’t it people?

Perhaps the real injury we’re dealing with is Ange’s fragile ego—it’s proving far more detrimental to the team than anything else at this club currently, the only one who supersedes him in the failure olympics is Levy but even he can't be blamed for the awful results we have seen this season.

Shocking state of affairs.


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Starks/Totti the positivity grandstander funnily enough dissapeared after the Ipswich fiasco and hasn't been back since

I was surprised when he didn't return temporarily after the city win

Can no longer grandstand and peddle the "our defence is one of the best in the league" bluster , so I guess there is nothing here for him

He might be ill mate!

Or he might have a life away from here that needs his attention.
 
It is success though.
Champions league football brings a lot of money and new fans in.

:levystare:

It may not be your definition of success. But I'd bet my left nut that Levy writes a list of objectives and finishing in the top 4 is high, winning a league cup and finishing bottom half is not on it.

That is why Poch lasted 5 years and this fraud coach will be gone before the decorations come down.
So you are saying Ange is more likely to win a cup than Poch was
 
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