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Management Levy / ENIC

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Levy In or Levy Out

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Ed Vanderlay said:
It is possible to hold the following two positions

I enjoy going to watch my team
I don’t like Levy and ENIC but I’m not going to let them stop me doing something I enjoy , even if they benefit from it

That is not meant as a criticism of those who have chosen not to go , just that position is easier to reconcile , but it’s not the only position.
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That's one way to view it.

Another would be to storm the merchandise shops; set fire to the cheese room; hunt down and guillotine the entire executive board.

I mean we'd all probably get arrested and Napoleon would end up controlling Spurs but think of the friends we'll make along the way :D
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
It is possible to hold the following two positions

I enjoy going to watch my team
I don’t like Levy and ENIC but I’m not going to let them stop me doing something I enjoy , even if they benefit from it

That is not meant as a criticism of those who have chosen not to go , just that position is easier to reconcile , but it’s not the only position.
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A movement by and for football fans that requires them to stop being football fans does not stand a great chance of success.
 
Phomesy said:
That's one way to view it.

Another would be to storm the merchandise shops; set fire to the cheese room; hunt down and guillotine the entire executive board.

I mean we'd all probably get arrested and Napoleon would end up controlling Spurs but think of the friends we'll make along the way :D
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I’ll do the cheese room

Guys I tried I really tried but I couldn’t find it , my kind of revolution
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
It is possible to hold the following two positions

I enjoy going to watch my team
I don’t like Levy and ENIC but I’m not going to let them stop me doing something I enjoy , even if they benefit from it

That is not meant as a criticism of those who have chosen not to go , just that position is easier to reconcile , but it’s not the only position.
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Of course it is.

Why should any lifelong fan allow these odious cunts to take away something that's been such a massive part of their life for so many years?
Levy just wins hands down because you'd simply be replaced by a newer or less passionate client reference number anyway.

But as you say, respect should also be given to those who refuse to go because of ENIC.

both positions are perfectly reasonable and understandable.
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
It is possible to hold the following two positions

I enjoy going to watch my team
I don’t like Levy and ENIC but I’m not going to let them stop me doing something I enjoy , even if they benefit from it

That is not meant as a criticism of those who have chosen not to go , just that position is easier to reconcile , but it’s not the only position.
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I was at this point but now I don’t enjoy watching us and haven’t since Conte’s first three months. Either side of that it’s 6 years ago that I last really liked going to games.

I still go but I don’t know why. I didn’t go to Chelsea and won’t go to the Liverpool game. I’ll go to wolves but then I’m not sure when I will go next due to family reasons and also I’ve just had enough.

But I think you’re in a big boat with lots of people feeling the same as you.
 
Just saw a good suggestion. Protests won’t do anything to get rid of him but embarrassing levy might help.

Next Sky game nobody takes their seats for the first 15 minutes and make it clear on social media beforehand that is the reason for it, wanting rid of ENIC.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Just saw a good suggestion. Protests won’t do anything to get rid of him but embarrassing levy might help.

Next Sky game nobody takes their seats for the first 15 minutes and make it clear on social media beforehand that is the reason for it, wanting rid of ENIC
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Nothing like that will ever happen

Our fanbase doesn't care , they are fine with being mediocre

They've been blinded by a pretty stadium and endless Enic corporate buzz words

We'll sing the odd levy out song once every 18 months but then another sap walks through the door , the word "project" is bandied about again and everyone jumps aboard the deluded train and here we are

All the forning over a bang average manager over the last 12 months being the case in point

Levy's dream has been realised , Tottenham Hotspur is an experience these days , not a competitive football club

It even says Tottenham Hotspur experience on the side of the TM* Worlds largest club shop

Enic have won , it's game over
 
FightingIllini said:
When Levy Out manages to separate itself from the day's result on the pitch, it will be gaining traction.

ENIC's ideology is a cancer on sport, and it has grown far beyond Spurs. That's what the Super League ought to have woken people up to.
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Grown beyond spurs?

Come on bro, be real.

Spurs didn't start the Premier league, spurs didn't start the insane money in TV rights, spurs didn't start paying the kinds of astronomical wages.

I'm not staying that is a good thing. ENIC got into football to be part of what football was already becoming, its not their ideology.

Not a single person who regularly watches any Prem league, European, international football can with a straight face tell me that the game isn't rotten from top to bottom. The whole thing is a corrupt mess designed to maximise profit for TV companies, owners, agents.
 
FightingIllini said:
ENIC's ideology is a cancer on sport, and it has grown far beyond Spurs. That's what the Super League ought to have woken people up to.
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I don't know that this is entirely true. ENIC are a symptom of the disease.

The cancer that is destroying football is the fact there's not a single club in the PL which has not made an 8-figure net loss over the past 4 seasons (Spurs included).

The whole thing is racing towards a cliff, reliant upon the charity (or investment towards future gains) of rich men. There are 2 types who can play this game - excessively rich individuals or nations, and hedge funds.

In the end, it will be the sheer unsustainability of football's expenses which will drive the change to an ESL which will negotiate a salary cap with FIFPRO.
 
I am as pissed off wirh recent results as everyone else. Let’s look at it more realistically. Whilst I doubt some posters actually want the team to win, most do. Newcastle fans protested for years to get rid of their previous owners and whilst ne has gone now I doubt the protests did it but the money offered.
ENIC are a business and not controlled by Levy and protests will have no effect and if they sell it will be for financial reasons.
Levy as CEO and shareholder could be affected by protests but these protests must not include protests during a match as that will affect the players and results. Son had to persuade players to go over to the crowd against Bournemouth and it cannot be good for the players to be afraid of the fans. Not sure what happened after the match yesterday as turned TV off as soon as that whistle was blown. However Levy is hard skinned and will go when he wants but if he resigns without selling up the complaints re finance would not change. Having said that the table of wages shown a couple of pages back showed MU as 2nd highest spenders but below us in the league and teams that spend less above us. It is not all about money but getting the right players and Managers and Levy does not pick the players.
Ange A lot of criticism of Levy is about his Managerial appointments and sackings. From memory the posts before Mourinho went were similar to now and yet some are criticising Levy for not waiting to after the cup final when he was fulfilling what many fans wanted. We have had far too many Managers and Levy sacks them at the first sign of poor results and fan discontent. Now I have as many doubts about Ange’s tactics but unlike previous Managers he seems to have the players behind him still. I think it would be a mistake to sack him yet and perhaps see if he can turn it around. Now Levy will be criticised either way but the months after Conte went were dreadful and we cannot repeat that. Also a new Manager will not want some of the present squad and we will ditch them and buy different ones. If no permanent Manager or Ange looks like he will be sacked it will reduce any January purchases.
 
daveyboy88 said:
yep. thats why there was some singing for postecoglou before chelsea. they clearly dont care about the club being a joke. its a pastime for a lot of them, a day out. lets see what happens thursday with the away end. if we lose there and he goes over to the fans again it will be very interesting looool
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Tbf, I think some of the support for Postecoglou is borne out of contempt for Daniel Levy.
For some fans, vocally backing the manager at this stage is their way of saying "fuck you Levy, you're the real fucking problem"......And I totally get that
 
dudu said:
Grown beyond spurs?

Come on bro, be real.

Spurs didn't start the Premier league, spurs didn't start the insane money in TV rights, spurs didn't start paying the kinds of astronomical wages.

I'm not staying that is a good thing. ENIC got into football to be part of what football was already becoming, its not their ideology.

Not a single person who regularly watches any Prem league, European, international football can with a straight face tell me that the game isn't rotten from top to bottom. The whole thing is a corrupt mess designed to maximise profit for TV companies, owners, agents.
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Great post , the greatest sport on the planet is corrupted beyond repair .
It is no longer about the game , it is only about the money .
Like everything in life it is ruled by money men , who take , take , take , and give as little as possible back .
I hate what it has become but refuse to let them take my love of the game away from me .

Honestly , how many of us if we had the kind of money Lewis etc. have would not spend what we had to , to win Premierships , cups and CL . I would say nearly every one of us .
 
daveyboy88 said:
hmmm, i think thats the case for some. but theres defo idiots out there that actually think hes a good manager looool.
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Ha ha. Yeah, I know where you're coming from.

I think this is a real dilemma for the remaining hard-core Levy / ENIC fans who've been all mouth since his appointment.

Decrying any critical voice as a gooner, wifebeater and worse etc etc.

For them, to start turning on Ange would mean they'd have to admit that Levy monumentally fucked up yet again at the 16th time of asking 😆
 
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