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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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John Thomas said:
Ange ain't going anywhere guys. Certainly not imminently. Wether that upsets you or cheers you is irrelevant.
You'd all do far better in joining the chorus of unrest, now Spurred on by the legend that is Christian Romero, and direct your anger and frustration at where the real problem lies..

Levy OUT!
ENIC OUT!
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Really hope this is it for levy and Enic.
Levy is a slimy cunt all the board members are cunts, unambitious board that deserves fuck all from us.
 
JDefoe said:
That’s because the physical level to play PL football has dramatically increased so much. Johnno and Werner are as ordinary as ordinary gets but they’re both pacy as fuck. Quicker than anyone we had back then to be sure. The game is so fast now.

That’s what clubs buy now, athletes, and then they pray their management staff can get some football out of them as well.
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I havent seen johnson burn anyone for pace
 
John Thomas said:
Ange ain't going anywhere guys. Certainly not imminently. Wether that upsets you or cheers you is irrelevant.
You'd all do far better in joining the chorus of unrest, now Spurred on by the legend that is Christian Romero, and direct your anger and frustration at where the real problem lies..

Levy OUT!
ENIC OUT!
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Im glad romero spoke out but he is not a legend or a hero to me
Danny rose had a lot more to lose when he made his famous google interview
And he got a lot of shit for it because it "disrupted" our start to the season.
And sadly it didnt change a thing so why should the romero quote change anything...
 
Distaste for scouse said:
Why are you asking the fans to come up with a winning manager? That's what that fraud Levy is getting paid millions for isn't it?

Why can't we do the basics at this club? Every other premier league club can take the sting out of the game, waste time, sit in, frustrate and we have the perfect team to counter with pace.

That's why I'm saying Anyone can do better than this fraud he is a pub manager.
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It’s Munn and Lange who would be doing the recruiting. Levy would come in on later stages of process. I wonder who interviewed these 2nd rate coaches.
 
We could have the same discussion after every match. Would losing to (next opponent) be the final straw?

The leaks from upstairs seemed to say he won't be fired until after the cup match. But would getting played off at Ibrox do it?
 
Phomesy said:
Apologies. You're correct it was a cranky and intemperate response.

But the wider question I was answering was: why, given the results, do the majority of Spurs fans still want to stick with Postecoglou in the short term? Listing all the reasons he should be sacked yet again doesn't suffice to answer it. The majority of fans don't see a short term replacement who they believe will be any guarantee of doing better with what we currently have - see bus-conductor bus-conductor 's reply also. The scars of the Conte sacking and end of that season are still fresh in peoples minds.

So unless you have a better option than the aforementioned Ten Hag - then the needle isn't going to be moved in the way you want unless (and I repeat myself here yet again) we are in danger of a relegation battle or the dressing room is lost.

This isn't an argument against all the points you make so... lengthily and fulsomely :D It is an attempt to explain why despite all of that the needle hasn't moved in the direction you believe the evidence should move it.
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Apology accepted—no harm done; we all have our moments.

I understand your perspective and the rationale behind it, but I can’t help but feel we’re setting ourselves up for mediocrity and even more failure by sticking with Ange. We’re still in two highly winnable cup competitions, yet keeping him feels like an implicit concession that those opportunities are beyond us. Based on the trajectory and what we’ve seen so far, I have serious doubts he can deliver silverware this season (or ever) at this level.

While I can’t offer an alternative manager with certainty (it’s not my job to handle football operations) I think it’s naïve to suggest Ange is the best we can do. If I were Levy, I’d move heaven and earth to tempt Nagelsmann away from the Germany job but obviously we know that won't happen; so if that’s a pipe dream, I still believe there are managers we could realistically appoint mid-season who would likely improve us, I am sure of that, even if I don't have the knowledge to pull names out of the hat.

But to qualify Ange as the best we can get right now is to suggest that's the best this club can do which I refuse to accept, I simply do.

Ange is such a poor manager, he may actually be one of the worst I have seen at this club and I am not being hyperbolic when I say that, the first 10 games have massively fluffed his stats up, without those he would have been considered an abject failure and sacked long before now imo.

The key is to stop seeing change as inherently destabilizing. If the current course isn’t working—and evidence suggests it isn’t—then bold decisions need to be made, not just for the league but for those cup runs. We deserve better than a wait-and-see approach when glory is still within reach, I truly think the cups are winnable and we are throwing away another opportunity to win them by sticking with Ange.
 
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