Who picks the team? Why risk both with the schedule we have coming up.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Easy to forget Dragusin is a toddler in CB years too. Barely a senior player. How many top central defenders are ready at the age of 22? Guys like Bastoni, De Light, Konate are considered young CBs all 25. I guess Saliba 23 or Gvardiol 22 can cut is but only because they're exceptionally talented and really world class. So stupid we left ourselves short. Ridiculous we're now considering if maybe we could bring our 17 year old Croatian prospect over early.
Dragusin in the press conference being asked about what kind of guidance he will provide for his 18 year old partner in defence (who is a midfielder) is a low point for this club. Seriously? Maybe a bit of desperation but I'm starting to think we've been a little hasty clearing the squad of any experience and not replacing it. Perisic, Emerson, Dier, Hojbjerg needed to go yes but can't be all replaced with teenagers.
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Anybody doing that should save themselves the thought capacity because it's legally not allowed until he turns 18...
If they win the Europa Cup, FA Cup and get paid great wages they will stay at any club
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It seems to me that you could date the decline of the club from its high water mark (in the Levy era) to Levy’s failing to replace Dembele. That was the start, then he allowed the team to become stale in general, decided to get rid of Poch instead, and began his change the manager not the players era.
It all started then and it continues today, we’ve just window shopped through a summer window, apart from Solanke who was our (second) attempt to replace a star player with someone less expensive.
He hasn’t learned and the same will probably play out in the next window.
It's worse than Dembele mate, it was the windows we didn't sign anyone. Then the team all then declined at the same time, leaving us with only two phenomenal players and a load of players way past their best. With us buying a load of shit for stupid money, a process which is still happening now.
This has to be part of it.
Daniel can be inventive and creative when he wants to. But he also clings to anything that has given him success previously in the hope that it keeps working. This is very much apparent in how we try to sell star players. He clearly wanted to replicate the Bale to Madrid sale with how he held on to players because "they were worth more than offered" for so long. But in doing so he left good money on the table and we have peetered off in rebuilding the team time and time again.
That's my pointWho are they gonna win those with?
Yeah replaced him and Wanyama from our 16/17 season with Winks and Sissoko in the champions league final in 2019. And that wasn't the only area of the team that was allowed to decline/stagnate.
The team and squad we have now isn't as good as the peak Poch one, not even close.
We're building a team for 3/4 years time is my view, bit like Woolwich did under lego head, we've got a crop of very talented youngsters who will all mature at similarish times. But 1) will they actually all fulfill their potential and 2) what about the here and now?
Patience is in short supply with fans which isn't surprising considering the last 17 trophyless years whilst paying some of the highest prices to go to games. I just hope and pray that Ange/next manager can pick up a trophy this season. It might even stop some of the cunt offs on here for 5 minutes. Not holding my breath though.
The plan has been jam tomorrow for 24 years.
It's the only plan under ENIC.
It was called a '5 year plan in the post Sugar ENIC takeover.
Stalin was big on 5 year plans.
Now it's called a 'project'.
A project that after 18 months needs........
more time.
To bring forth tomorrow's jam.
It's still jam tomorrow.
For ever.
Just having a peruse of some Celtic forums and they are happier now that they have Rodgers stating he is a better manager than when he left them and that Ange was perfect for them at the time but he will always get found out against better managers.
Obviously that is people typing that now, but it does echo what a lot have said about him.
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We all love Ange, but we were lucky to have a rangers team that was imploding every few months with managers leaving and carnage in the boardroom, we did well because he signed great players for us, because he knew a market that was underused and worked it well, i just feel Rodgers adapts more with what he has, look at us in Europe, after a real humping at Dortmund, he changed it around, same as when we play away in the SPL these days as well, he seems to be a bit more savvy to the opposition and not falling into the trap of playing how they want us too.
Will always be grateful for Ange, did us a real treat, and got his reward with the move to the EPL, but those weaknesses we saw in him when we played in Europe seems to be a weekly occurrence in the EPL, he's also got a weird team of players, with some being injury prone, and others just looking out of sorts the minute they're up against it
Obviously that is people typing that now, but it does echo what a lot have said about him.
Kerrydale Street-Weekend Match Thread (7-8th December)
I wish him all the best. He was mental to go to spurs though. Not that I particularly care who wins the EPL but they're so poorly run it's unreal. Sur
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We all love Ange, but we were lucky to have a rangers team that was imploding every few months with managers leaving and carnage in the boardroom, we did well because he signed great players for us, because he knew a market that was underused and worked it well, i just feel Rodgers adapts more with what he has, look at us in Europe, after a real humping at Dortmund, he changed it around, same as when we play away in the SPL these days as well, he seems to be a bit more savvy to the opposition and not falling into the trap of playing how they want us too.
Will always be grateful for Ange, did us a real treat, and got his reward with the move to the EPL, but those weaknesses we saw in him when we played in Europe seems to be a weekly occurrence in the EPL, he's also got a weird team of players, with some being injury prone, and others just looking out of sorts the minute they're up against it
I don't even think you know anymore.
I think you'd argue with a mirror if no one else was in the room.
Anyone who doesn't know this is a matter of fact by now is just a fool.Just having a peruse of some Celtic forums and they are happier now that they have Rodgers stating he is a better manager than when he left them and that Ange was perfect for them at the time but he will always get found out against better managers.
Obviously that is people typing that now, but it does echo what a lot have said about him.
Kerrydale Street-Weekend Match Thread (7-8th December)
I wish him all the best. He was mental to go to spurs though. Not that I particularly care who wins the EPL but they're so poorly run it's unreal. Sur
eg.
We all love Ange, but we were lucky to have a rangers team that was imploding every few months with managers leaving and carnage in the boardroom, we did well because he signed great players for us, because he knew a market that was underused and worked it well, i just feel Rodgers adapts more with what he has, look at us in Europe, after a real humping at Dortmund, he changed it around, same as when we play away in the SPL these days as well, he seems to be a bit more savvy to the opposition and not falling into the trap of playing how they want us too.
Will always be grateful for Ange, did us a real treat, and got his reward with the move to the EPL, but those weaknesses we saw in him when we played in Europe seems to be a weekly occurrence in the EPL, he's also got a weird team of players, with some being injury prone, and others just looking out of sorts the minute they're up against it
They just are. It's not even a debate anymore. He'll be gone soon. In some ways, I would love to see him pop up at a West Ham or Wolves and taken them down. Just to prove he's useless. Better there than here.
Understand the sentiment but I would suggest playing 5 at the back (with this current tsquad and manager) wouldn't necessarily stop the goals against but would certainly limit the goals forward.we have 1 centre back until the new year, i'd like him try something like
Porro--Gray--Dragusin---Udogie--Spence
until we are sorted back there in Jan, never gonna happen but i fear some hidings in the next 4 weeks
The defence needs help from the middle and forwards.
Have you noticed most of the time he looks down while talking to the mic? I find this weird. Look at the camera please.
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Yes, and when Levy holds on to players because his overly optimistic valuation of them isn't met, he ends up selling them for less a bit later on.
Sometimes he does get a big fee but then we'll squander most of it, like with Bale... or we get 80+ million for Kane but we've already burned 60 million on Richarlison and have to spend another 60 on Solanke trying to make up for that miss.
It's a bewildering mess of poor decisions, most of which being dictated by their 'valuations' as much as results on the pitch.
It's like Levy thinks he's trading stocks and not running a sporting enterprise.
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Especially when we've lost.