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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
On if he needs a Plan B, he added: "I don't know how to answer that question. I don't know what Plan B or Plan C is."

And there you have it. Get him out of this club before it’s too late. People should be seriously concerned now.

He should have added ‘And Plan A was sussed last season!’
 
You’re right and we’ll pick up enough points to be just under halfway but we will get knocked out of the Caraboa Cup by an embarrassing margin, no chance in the league, maybe progress a bit in the Europa and face Tamworth next in the FA Cup!!!

We're not beating Tamworth. We'll lose and be humiliated, and the worst thing is that the Ange Cultists will meekly accept it.
 
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve sat there doing the same optimistic calculations over the years, only for the imagined scenario to fall apart. It’s a bit like using a predictor table and trying to stay unbiased—you're relying on other teams to falter for this to pan out. The only consistent and reliable metric in football, or any sport really, is form over the past 12 months, and when we look at that, the picture doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. But of course, this is all subjective, and everyone’s entitled to their own perspective.

Honestly, like you, I haven’t given up on the season. That’s precisely why I want a managerial change—because I believe by sticking with him, we’re effectively writing off any realistic shot at success this season, especially when you look at the performance metrics.
My optimism stems mostly from the idea that we've bottomed out due to the injuries. Being so much stronger than the teams below us in the standings I don't see us going lower. And some of the teams ahead of Spurs will likely slip back some.
 
We are in a bad place to put it mildly
1- A manager hopelessly not suited for this level, stuck with a system that's not working.
2- player not good enough.
3 - summer transfer window which involved, one first team player, and a number of embryos.
4- A chairman obsessed with, increasing the clubs revenue streams, but no interest in increasing the clubs trophy cabinet.
5- A disenchanted fanbase , fed up to the eyeballs with a club that underachieves to record levels.
6- falling down the table, a midtable team is where we are at now.
7- too many chiefs at the club, shocking levels of recruitment , continue to not address the issues within the squad.

This is the worst position the club has been in since it almost went under before sugar bought us and since relegation in 1978. Maybe even worse. We as fans are paralysed under levy. We have nowhere to turn.
 
And dominant. We were in control. Used to physically bully teams. I could sit back and enjoy games regularly.

Fucking miss it.

Yeah there was a feeling going into games with Poch as coach for a good 2 seasons where i was pretty confident of a result every week. Looking back, at the results and performances though, I think I have a fonder memory now of some games and performances than I likely did at the time but still the final two 3rds of the 2016/17 season were the most relaxed I've ever been as a Spurs fan.
 
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Here are PPM numbers for the managers we had in the last 20 years. Don't think I forgot any full-time manager, or something major is wrong with the data. But feel free to correct if you think so.

Santini: 13 points from 12 matches. 1.08/match
Jol: 171 points from 112 matches. 1.52/match
Ramos:41 points from 36 matches. 1.13/match
Redknapp: 250 points from 144 matches. 1.73/match
AVB: 99 points from 54 matches. 1.83/match
Pochettino:382 points from 202 matches. 1.89/match
Mourinho: 95 points from 58 matches. 1.63/match
Nuno: 15 points from 10 matches. 1.5/match
Conte: 105 points from 56 matches. 1.87/match
Ange: 89 points from 55 matches. 1.61/match

He's somewhere in the middle of the pack. He's way below Pochettino and Redknapp, considering how big of a sample they had compared to him. His sample size is identical with Conte's and AVB's, and he's significantly below them as well. Santini and Nuno had too small of samples to make a clear comparison, but they probably wouldn't be able to keep up with him regardless. So I consider him above these two. He's surprisingly almost identical with Mourinho right now. He's doing slightly better than Jol, but he may not be here long enough to catch him in the number of matches so it's hard to compare. Finally, he's obviously doing much better than Ramos.

*Solely league matches btw
 
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I can't actually believe some of the fuck ups he is making with the media,, it's not even just the on the pitch stuff he's shit at.

Giving stupid soundbites like "are you not entertained?", it just going to be thrown back at you especially when you are overseeing such shite results including conceding 13 in 3 home games. Now we have to put up with Drury rubbing it in, repeating 'are you not entertained?" on comms everytime we concede a goal. Ange is so far out of his depth it's absurd.

I watched his interview on the official site, he just looks totally lost. He knows he has no answers. I've never seen a manager look so out of his depth. It would be funny if it wasn't happening to our club. His only default response, is to keep repeating the same things,

" I won't change"
"it's who we are"
"we lacked intensity"
"injuries"
"well we are the only team who scored 3 goals against them this season" Oh well done, do you want a fukin medal? we lost 6-3. Do you know how small time that sounds? We are Spurs and we have a manager going 'well we scored 3 times against them' like we are Yeovil town. A proper manager would never say that.

I literally watch his interview and cringe.

And it is this complete lack of self awareness, of adaptabilty, of any tactical nouse, which is why he needs to go now.

Nothing will change or improve with this imposter.

And just publicly saying things like, it's who we are mate, we only play one way, won't change, I can't honestly believe people buy this crap? Blind leading the blind comes to mind.
 
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