I suspect it's the other way around and why Levy is happy to keep him as 'manager'.
I suspect it's different and he has Scott Munn under a spell
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I suspect it's the other way around and why Levy is happy to keep him as 'manager'.
he also runs inwards allowing elanga more space, hes a fucking terrible defender. shit footballer all round to be honest from what ive seen, regardless of shit system and the worst manager going. you watch udogie's natural instincts and they are all wrong.
give him 6 months with a proper manager and if theres not a massive improvement we should move on, he looks like an absolute dud so far.
Yeah I don't get it with Ange. Somehow he has this happy chappy image when he's mostly a miserable cunt in interviews and pressers.
I also find it a bit cringey that he gets to experiment with his kamikaze brand of football in England at our expense. It's very small time. No other "big" club would tolerate this mess.
His interview after United, "Are you not entertained?" and all that bollocks was embarrassing after only being saved from yet another complete collapse by a freak goal direct from a corner.
My biggest gripe is his stubborness and that is ultimately what will get him sacked. Yes we have had terrible luck with injuries but a better manager gets us more points on the board by adapting to the players at his disposal.
Nothing about the black hole in the middle of the pitch that Gibbs-White ran into unchallenged?This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.
Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.
What a weird comparison. Sometimes I do think you’re just on the wind up with this trying to be overly reasonable stuff.
Forest are a low block side who took a lead - I’d expect us to manage a good xG against them. And if the Forest result came in isolation, no I wouldn’t be that concerned.
The issue with the Forest result was that it was part of a chain of losses. The performance was somewhat ok.
The whole point was that people overrated our early season performances & after like we were inevitably on our way to a winning run. It wasn’t true.
Mate do you remember these same people in full Gregorian chant mode... "The underlying metrics are Gooooooooood"What a weird comparison. Sometimes I do think you’re just on the wind up with this trying to be overly reasonable stuff.
Forest are a low block side who took a lead - I’d expect us to manage a good xG against them. And if the Forest result came in isolation, no I wouldn’t be that concerned.
The issue with the Forest result was that it was part of a chain of losses. The performance was somewhat ok.
The whole point was that people overrated our early season performances & after like we were inevitably on our way to a winning run. It wasn’t true.
Mate....our tactic and set up is completely at fault.This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.
Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.
I think this narrative that he's going to be sacked any day now has come solely from this thread and people backing up eachother's views. All the word coming from anyone within the club is that they've no intention of sacking Ange mid season and might even back him in January with more players
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lol every report I read about this guy it sounds like he's got his feet firmly under the table
Same fucking shite over and over.Mate....our tactic and set up is completely at fault.
It encourages our fullbacks in the 10 position where Spence ran into on instruction...and where he lost the ball.
Sarr is also pushing extremely high up because again that is the instruction to do so.
Bentancur now being the sole "midfielder" has a decision to make,cover the space vacated by Spence or Sarr as any midfielder would do(he has to much to do on his own now.) Johnson came inside so Bentancur covered right back area(the right thing to do.)
Johnson makes a poor attempt at getting the ball and now the ball falls to Morgan-gibbs white who is a powerful and willing runner who has absolute acres of space to run into..and a ridiculous amount of time to pick a pass, a technically very good he executes an excellent pass to elanga leaving our backline no chance as it's terrible to watch from our point of view.
Udogie could have done a bit better but damage was done
No manager will survive these results. Only question is how much weight the club are putting towards the injuries and giving him some leeway. They shouldn't, but they may well decide he's been dealt a rough hand. That would be horrendous decision making, but that wouldn't be the first time. Ultimately we may stumble to a few wins and Ange rides it out until the summer, but I can't see it.
Without a doubt Woolwich and Liverpool will beat us, plus likely Newcastle. I just can't see how he survives losing 3 out of the next 4.
The worst thing we could do is give enough time for Ange to survive, and end up with this clown still here next season, a very real chance he'd take us down.
If the club really mean business in supporting ange, they would move very quickly early in the window.No manager will survive these results. Only question is how much weight the club are putting towards the injuries and giving him some leeway. They shouldn't, but they may well decide he's been dealt a rough hand. That would be horrendous decision making, but that wouldn't be the first time. Ultimately we may stumble to a few wins and Ange rides it out until the summer, but I can't see it.
Without a doubt Woolwich and Liverpool will beat us, plus likely Newcastle. I just can't see how he survives losing 3 out of the next 4.
The worst thing we could do is give enough time for Ange to survive, and end up with this clown still here next season, a very real chance he'd take us down.
No, it’s our squad which isn’t good enough.And sooner or later he will have a decent spell. Anyone can have it with those kind of players.
What was the excuse when we lost 5 in 6 at the end of the season, with Micky, Vicario and Romero all playing?No, it’s our squad which isn’t good enough.
Blaming Ange is providing cover for Levy.
If any squad had poor strength in depth, and the starting CBs, GK, and back up LCB were all injured- they would struggle.
If and it's a massive if he turns our season around and we end up around the top 4 or perhaps top 6 and a trophy then he would have more than deserved another season.
I think though that is unlikely to happen and we'll probably end up in 8th with no trophies and yes then we should replace him.
I think people are looking at this from a results based perspective, I keep hearing about him being sacked based on one result every match but it looks so far to me that the board are looking at the context I said in my previous post about injuries and cups...A run in the EL and FA might save him for now.
Edit - Just as I thought
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the point being XG can't be looked at in isolation the way you are choosing too.
You have made concessions and some kind of analysis based on the way teams play and whatever else for the Forest game but you just show XG for the other games like that even comes close to telling the whole story.
You over use XG IMHO. It really isn't the be all and end all of stats you make it out to be.
Teams are also content to let us have the ball.It can if you’re claiming we were absolutely battering sides at the start of the season. I can back that xG up with my eye test/personal opinion too - I didn’t feel we were creating clear cut chances in many of these matches. Others felt the same.
Hardly. Fundamentally we were OK against Forest. It was a close game. Again, had that been a ‘normal’ game nobody would be overly concerned. The issue was we are losing every game, not whether we played well or not..
We’ve had a mixture of great and poor results even with a fit squad, didn’t invest enough in the summer transfer window.What was the excuse when we lost 5 in 6 at the end of the season, with Micky, Vicario and Romero all playing?
What was the excuse when we lost to Palace with all 3 playing? Or Ipswich with 2 of them playing?