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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
The injured players will return and Spurs will come up with some wins and everything will go forward with Postecoglou. I think the owner and board have decided Postecoglou's the guy and they aren't going to be open to removing him. He'll have to have a full season with a healthy squad and transfer help before they'll make a decision.
Postecoglou is THE reason we keep having such injury problems.
He'd be lucky to have 5 league games with a healthy squad before he wrecks them all again.
And he'll probably still lose 2 or 3 of those 5 games anyway because he's a total fucking fraud.
 
And before checking his run he was hardly busting a gut to get back
he also runs inwards allowing elanga more space, hes a fucking terrible defender. shit footballer all round to be honest from what ive seen, regardless of shit system and the worst manager going. you watch udogie's natural instincts and they are all wrong.

give him 6 months with a proper manager and if theres not a massive improvement we should move on, he looks like an absolute dud so far.
 
It's interesting reading the comments in here today. I think I started a thread on this and so did someone else but what's an acceptable outcome for a season for us now?

Is it at least top 6 in the league, a good run / win in a cup (doesn't matter which one, Audi Cup doesn't count)? What do you think?
League cup is going to be difficult. Can't see us beating Liverpool over two legs. The FA Cup will be an opportunity but we will need luck with the draw i.e avoiding the top Prem teams until the final. Europa Cup is most winnable because the opposition are much of a muchness and no Champion League teams drop into it. This is our best hope. My expectations are now top half and Europa.
 
The worst thing is that if we accept this, we've lowered our standards permanently. No other managers would've been given this long under those circumstances.

And sooner or later he will have a decent spell. Anyone can have it with those kind of players. And people will think he's turned it around. And it could go on for longer than we think. Because something about his persona is making Levy stick with him.
He has the least bragging rights of all managers, SPL being his previous peak. Still he's the most arrogant fuck I've seen. Talking about second season winner every time but can't even beat Ipswich. He's so tactically inept it's actually funny 🤣. But everyone's laughing at us nowadays. But for some reason he has Levy under his control.
 
The idea is that this young squad should be able to adapt to any future attacking manager. Surely.

We can change managers but we can’t change overall styles because that’s what’s fucked us for the last five years.

Add and enhance the squad and move players on where needed but we need to keep a core nucleus that we build for success with.
Edin Terzic, get him in as interim he is a talented progressive coach who isn't on some kind of insane power fantasy like Postecoglou. If he takes to it and ends the season well jobs his. If we are not certain get Iraola in the summer. The good thing about the way we have brought is any modern coach can use Sarr, Udogie Maddison, Vic. I think Ange Postecoglou took many people in but was simply not qualified to coach this level. He will never work at it again.

We can recall Philips use Dorrington and buy a Hanko to get us through. I'd buy Bakayoko I'm sick of choir boys, good his got an ego. We will be better without the bizarre handbrake that's Ange Postecoglou it's time everyone accepted it think we are nearly 90% there alot of the cultist have disappeared.
 
Sooooo.... you can't honestly be that concerned with our loss to Forest who were at full strentgth and are the second most in form team in the league?


View: https://x.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1872326115454525741


What a weird comparison. Sometimes I do think you’re just on the wind up with this trying to be overly reasonable stuff.

Forest are a low block side who took a lead - I’d expect us to manage a good xG against them. And if the Forest result came in isolation, no I wouldn’t be that concerned.

The issue with the Forest result was that it was part of a chain of losses. The performance was somewhat ok.

The whole point was that people overrated our early season performances & after like we were inevitably on our way to a winning run. It wasn’t true.
 
he also runs inwards allowing elanga more space, hes a fucking terrible defender. shit footballer all round to be honest from what ive seen, regardless of shit system and the worst manager going. you watch udogie's natural instincts and they are all wrong.

give him 6 months with a proper manager and if theres not a massive improvement we should move on, he looks like an absolute dud so far.

Not just me then!
 
Yeah I don't get it with Ange. Somehow he has this happy chappy image when he's mostly a miserable cunt in interviews and pressers.

I also find it a bit cringey that he gets to experiment with his kamikaze brand of football in England at our expense. It's very small time. No other "big" club would tolerate this mess.

His interview after United, "Are you not entertained?" and all that bollocks was embarrassing after only being saved from yet another complete collapse by a freak goal direct from a corner.

My biggest gripe is his stubborness and that is ultimately what will get him sacked. Yes we have had terrible luck with injuries but a better manager gets us more points on the board by adapting to the players at his disposal.

He's miserable when he loses and happy when he wins, just like every other manager - what a shock.

It's just that these days we've seen him more miserable because we keep losing.
 
What a weird comparison. Sometimes I do think you’re just on the wind up with this trying to be overly reasonable stuff.

Forest are a low block side who took a lead - I’d expect us to manage a good xG against them. And if the Forest result came in isolation, no I wouldn’t be that concerned.

The issue with the Forest result was that it was part of a chain of losses. The performance was somewhat ok.

The whole point was that people overrated our early season performances & after like we were inevitably on our way to a winning run. It wasn’t true.

the point being XG can't be looked at in isolation the way you are choosing too.

You have made concessions and some kind of analysis based on the way teams play and whatever else for the Forest game but you just show XG for the other games like that even comes close to telling the whole story.

You over use XG IMHO. It really isn't the be all and end all of stats you make it out to be.
 
What a weird comparison. Sometimes I do think you’re just on the wind up with this trying to be overly reasonable stuff.

Forest are a low block side who took a lead - I’d expect us to manage a good xG against them. And if the Forest result came in isolation, no I wouldn’t be that concerned.

The issue with the Forest result was that it was part of a chain of losses. The performance was somewhat ok.

The whole point was that people overrated our early season performances & after like we were inevitably on our way to a winning run. It wasn’t true.
Mate do you remember these same people in full Gregorian chant mode... "The underlying metrics are Gooooooooood"

china olympics GIF by South Park
 
This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.

Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.
Mate....our tactic and set up is completely at fault.

It encourages our fullbacks in the 10 position where Spence ran into on instruction...and where he lost the ball.

Sarr is also pushing extremely high up because again that is the instruction to do so.

Bentancur now being the sole "midfielder" has a decision to make,cover the space vacated by Spence or Sarr as any midfielder would do(he has too much to do on his own now.) Johnson came inside so Bentancur covered right back area(the right thing to do.)

Johnson makes a poor attempt at getting the ball and now the ball falls to Morgan-gibbs white who is a powerful and willing runner who has absolute acres of space to run into..and a ridiculous amount of time to pick a pass, and technically very good he executes an excellent pass to elanga leaving our backline no chance and it's terrible to watch from our point of view.

Udogie could have done a bit better but damage was done
 
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I think this narrative that he's going to be sacked any day now has come solely from this thread and people backing up eachother's views. All the word coming from anyone within the club is that they've no intention of sacking Ange mid season and might even back him in January with more players

Well no. We have votes of confidence from the club, he's favourite to be sacked with the bookies, media and pundits are laying into him, and results have been shocking. To think it is just coming from this thread is laughable.

If we sign anyone in January it will be club signings regardless of who the manager is. I expect Ange will be gone by mid Jan latest but I doubt he survives defeat tomorrow and at this stage we are just prolonging the inevitable. He's been a huge failure.
 
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