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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
We are only missing 3 key first team players. They’d fuck any team over of course but we have lost plenty of games with all 3 present.

The 10 squad player total injuries is affecting our ability to rotate - not that Ange was really rotating when they were fit.

What a lie.

Go look at the Coventry and our Europa lineups and try again
 
As a Spurs fan since 1882 I'd be happy for Mikel Arteta to stomp on my face using the EPL and UCL Trophies as jackboots while I drowned in a vat of Chelski Fan jizz if it meant this FAT AUSSIE CUNT FRAUD was sacked.

It's the only way to be sure...

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The problem with this is that you're assuming that things would get better if we lose this manager, it doesn't work like that.

It's such a foolish thing to say, to want us to lose games to get rid of a manager to essentially roll the dice for a scenario that may not happen in your favour.

What all fans should be saying is that they want us to win today and want this manager to turn things round and go on a winning streak in order to prove them wrong.

The City thing last season was understandable but wanting to lose this fucking match is some clown shit.

Unless we are nailed on a more proven manager like Nagelsmann or Poch it is a huge risk. We know Naglesmann won’t happen as apparently he wanted to much control, Pochettino is now the US manager. Most of the other names would be making a big step up just like Ange did. Other than turning it around there isn’t an easy get out. The squad though is bare, we need reinforcements more than anything.
 
The problem with this is that you're assuming that things would get better if we lose this manager, it doesn't work like that.

It's such a foolish thing to say, to want us to lose games to get rid of a manager to essentially roll the dice for a scenario that may not happen in your favour.

What all fans should be saying is that they want us to win today and want this manager to turn things round and go on a winning streak in order to prove them wrong.

The City thing last season was understandable but wanting to lose this fucking match is some clown shit.
The problem as far as I see it, is that I can not se Ange turn this around. He is running the players that aren't already broken in to the ground. And his tactics makes for worn out players at the end of the season. Plus he's naive "my way or the highway" approach is clearly not working in the Premier League. If I could I would want him out now. 3 hours before the Wolves game. Because I think we will be in a relegation fight if we don't fire him now. And a relegation fight with Ange, worn out players run to the ground, I don't think we will come out ahead of.

Another coach with the ability to set up a defence and that believes in changes during games would save us.

I think amateur hour has kept going for too long. I'm willing to accept us loosing today if it means we have Terzic or Potter as manager tomorrow. For the greater good.
 
The problem as far as I see it, is that I can not se Ange turn this around. He is running the players that aren't already broken in to the ground. And his tactics makes for worn out players at the end of the season. Plus he's naive "my way or the highway" approach is clearly not working in the Premier League. If I could I would want him out now. 3 hours before the Wolves game. Because I think we will be in a relegation fight if we don't fire him now. And a relegation fight with Ange, worn worn out players run to the ground, I don't think we will come out ahead of.

Another coach with the ability to set up a defence and that believes in changes during games would save us.

I think amateur hour has kept going for too long. I'm willing to accept us loosing today if it means we have Terzic or Potter as manager tomorrow. For the greater good.

I can't take this argument seriously, a relegation fight...sorry you're just being ridiculous.

We keep going round in circles in this ridiculous argument...changing the manager now purely for Mason ball is just genuinely pointless and dumb, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever - no-one is yet to convince me that's it a good move and 'surely he has to be better than Ange' isn't an argument.

And sorry to say blowing things up mid season and getting in Terzic or Potter now isn't worth it when there's a host of better potential options in the Summer, just chill.
 
I can't take this argument seriously, a relegation fight...sorry you're just being ridiculous.

We keep going round in circles in this ridiculous argument...changing the manager now purely for Mason ball is just genuinely pointless and dumb, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever - no-one is yet to convince me that's it a good move and 'surely he has to be better than Ange' isn't an argument.

And sorry to say blowing things up mid season and getting in Terzic or Potter now isn't worth it when there's a host of better potential options in the Summer, just chill.
I think Mason ball will leave us higher in the table at the end of the season than Ange ball will.
And relegation fight might be ridiculous, but our current form is also pretty ridiculous.
 
I think Mason ball will leave us higher in the table at the end of the season than Ange ball will.
And relegation fight might be ridiculous, but our current form is also pretty ridiculous.

Our current form isn't sustainable with our players being out, it just isn't.

Mason ball isn't a guarantee of anything other than an early admittance of yet another failed project, Ange has been appalling and will most likely be gone at the end of the season should this form carry on but let's see where we are after the up and coming window, we need to give him a chance to turn things around and prolong his tenure until the Summer for our sake.
 
Ange is a nice man but this is his first job at the top level and he’s 60 years old. He has a team of novice, mediocre coaches around him who also have no meaningful experience at this level.

It’s one thing to be patient with a young manager with no elite experience but a 60 year old? When results are this bad for this long what is there to justify giving him more time? Anyone with eyes can see that Ange and his coaching staff are not meeting the required standard. Our attack is easily nullified, we are easily bullied and we can’t keep clean sheets. We struggle to score more than once unless the opponent bends over for us. That has been the case for the entire year even when we haven’t had injuries. Despite this Ange has literally said he will not change anything significant.

Leaving aside Levy’s neglect of the playing squad, what reason is there to keep believing in Ange if we keep losing games? Keeping a bad manager because it’s a hassle finding a new one is not a good enough reason. 18 months is enough time to judge a manager’s impact and his impact has been negative. The team is much worse than when Conte left.
 
Can't even describe what Ange is.

He's not a manager because he can't manage.

He's not a coach because he can't coach.

He's more of a passive-aggressive bouncer.
He's a ideologue mixed with a motivational speaker and politician.

He sells you on the idea of "Big Ange" and his "pure and superior" brand of football that's guaranteed to bring success wherever he goes.

I'm all for having a ideology and philosophy. Hell, I encourage it. But those things don't work in either politics, life or sports unless you have some form of structure to attach them to. Ange's football lacks that and relies on outrunning, outworking and outscoring the opponent for the full 90. It worked at Celtic were he had such a superior squad that pure player quality could fix any problems that arose. But it doesn't work here. The league is just too good to rely purely on his philosophy.
 
As a Spurs fan of 56 years I'm ashamed to admit that if it was guaranteed that AP was sacked this evening if we lost at home to Wolves today, then I'd happily take the loss:thumbdown:
If we don't lose today, we'll lose the next or the one after that.

May as well get this over with.

I'd go as far as to day I'll almost be disappointed if we turn up and spank them 4-0 because all it does is prolong the inevitable.

Time to roll the dice. Might be a 1 and things get no better (can't get much worse) or it could be 2-6 and things improve.

Come on Daniel. Do it before the window so it's not entirely wasted.
 
Our current form isn't sustainable with our players being out, it just isn't.

Mason ball isn't a guarantee of anything other than an early admittance of yet another failed project, Ange has been appalling and will most likely be gone at the end of the season should this form carry on but let's see where we are after the up and coming window, we need to give him a chance to turn things around and prolong his tenure until the Summer for our sake.

Give him a chance 😂 you give denial a whole new meaning. And don’t start about who else will we get then? Mason would be a lot better than this angry obnoxious fool.
 
Ange is a nice man but this is his first job at the top level and he’s 60 years old. He has a team of novice, mediocre coaches around him who also have no meaningful experience at this level.

It’s one thing to be patient with a young manager with no elite experience but a 60 year old? When results are this bad for this long what is there to justify giving him more time? Anyone with eyes can see that Ange and his coaching staff are not meeting the required standard. Our attack is easily nullified, we are easily bullied and we can’t keep clean sheets. We struggle to score more than once unless the opponent bends over for us. That has been the case for the entire year even when we haven’t had injuries. Despite this Ange has literally said he will not change anything significant.

Leaving aside Levy’s neglect of the playing squad, what reason is there to keep believing in Ange if we keep losing games? Keeping a bad manager because it’s a hassle finding a new one is not a good enough reason. 18 months is enough time to judge a manager’s impact and his impact has been negative. The team is much worse than when Conte left.
Excellent post 👏👏👏
 
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