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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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HampshireSpur said:
My feeling is about the same as it's been for the last few weeks - give Ange the cups and if we bomb out of one or both then sack him. I just feel to move right now is a bit pointless, unless the club have something really special up their sleeve (which I doubt).

The league season is a write off, or close to it, sadly.
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This is why he needs to go now. We could potentially win the LC or the EL - I just have no belief he can.
 
MemphisWill said:
This is why he needs to go now. We could potentially win the LC or the EL - I just have no belief he can.
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I agree with the general gist of what you're saying, but I'd want assurances that there is a quality candidate available NOW to manage us in the cups.

I don't want to see a repeat of the Mourinho situation from a few years ago when we sacked him off for poor form, hoping for a new manager bounce, but the new manager was Mason who had zero management experience.
 
HampshireSpur said:
You know my thoughts on Ange, mate - I'm not going to rehearse them again, so let's just say I'm far from convinced.

My feeling is the interesting candidates are all in employment at the moment and none of them would currently come to us. I don't feel comfortable with Mason again until the end of the season, I just don't see the point of it at this stage.

My feeling is about the same as it's been for the last few weeks - give Ange the cups and if we bomb out of one or both then sack him. I just feel to move right now is a bit pointless, unless the club have something really special up their sleeve (which I doubt).

The league season is a write off, or close to it, sadly.
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When Mason did his first stint he won 4/6 games. He also only barely lost to City in the final. He’s not the answer or long term solution at all of course. But as an interim steady the ship and arrest this fucking woeful performance? It’s got to be better than carrying on.

Otherwise where are the next points coming from? Newcastle? Woolwich? Very unlikely.

Liverpool just dicked us for fun, realistically the SF is where our journey will end with the LC but someone else might just at least get us to Anfield with a chance.
 
daveyboy88 said:
any idea why he walked from dortmund?
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I guess after coming close to title and the champions league then scrapping with players he was probably emotionally done...... he's very close to Dortmund in general pretty sure he's a local lad did all his training and education there when klopp was manager.... Bit like Ryan mason I guess but obviously proved himself at the highest level.
 
Shadydan said:
The problem with this is that you're assuming that things would get better if we lose this manager, it doesn't work like that.

It's such a foolish thing to say, to want us to lose games to get rid of a manager to essentially roll the dice for a scenario that may not happen in your favour.

What all fans should be saying is that they want us to win today and want this manager to turn things round and go on a winning streak in order to prove them wrong.

The City thing last season was understandable but wanting to lose this fucking match is some clown shit.
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I've been in that camp but over the past 2+ months I have listened to this man and watched what he has served up and now I am 100% convinced when this guy goes he will leave us in a far worse position than when he found us. Get rid now and start to rebuild from the ashes Ange-Ball would have left.
 
Aphex said:
Do you remember when we had people saying that we were cherry picking stats by only choosing the games since the Chelsea game last year to highlight the poor form, trying to make out that the most recent form is never the most important, even when it's over 30 league games long. It was only a few months ago this was happening. Where have they all gone? That poor form has actually continued and is now even worse, and apparently now the excuse is fatigue and injuries.

I still see people defending him, It is beyond demented at this stage. I'm convinced some people will see Ange take us down, or at the very least until we are deep in a relegation battle, before they decide they want him out.

Thankfully these people are in the minority.

He has to go tomorrow morning. If he doesn't, I'll be gutted.

It's reassuring to hear that ex players are actually saying Ange is gone out loud. Whether it's an opinion or they have heard something, there will now no doubt be people with a direct line into Levy voicing the same thing. It can't be long now. The board must really seriously be concerned we can get caught in battle at the bottom of the league if this continue for a few weeks longer, and with Woolwich and Newcastle coming up, it likely will.

If he's not gone by tomorrow then he's here for Newcastle, and we will 100% lose that. Isak will have a field day up against Gray and Radu. We are just throwing points away by keeping him.
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They've all gone quiet out of shame and rightly do.
 
Nobody3 said:
I've been in that camp but over the past 2+ months I have listened to this man and watched what he has served up and now I am 100% convinced when this guy goes he will leave us in a far worse position than when he found us. Get rid now and start to rebuild from the ashes Ange-Ball would have left.
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He will leave a better squad than the one he inherited. It’s just forgotten how to defend, understand tactics and they are all broken.

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Nobody3 said:
I've been in that camp but over the past 2+ months I have listened to this man and watched what he has served up and now I am 100% convinced when this guy goes he will leave us in a far worse position than when he found us. Get rid now and start to rebuild from the ashes Ange-Ball would have left.
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Who's is your pref to take over?
 
HampshireSpur said:
You know my thoughts on Ange, mate - I'm not going to rehearse them again, so let's just say I'm far from convinced.

My feeling is the interesting candidates are all in employment at the moment and none of them would currently come to us. I don't feel comfortable with Mason again until the end of the season, I just don't see the point of it at this stage.

My feeling is about the same as it's been for the last few weeks - give Ange the cups and if we bomb out of one or both then sack him. I just feel to move right now is a bit pointless, unless the club have something really special up their sleeve (which I doubt).

The league season is a write off, or close to it, sadly.
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Ange's methods are literally causing our players to drop like flies. For the sake of our players legs, we need to bring in a manager with a proper understanding of the demands of the PL and the relevant sports science. Asking the players to sweat blood every day in training then demanding that they run like wild horses in a chaotic match every 3 days, is suicide. Nobody else at this level is dumb enough to do that.

Even the most intense attacking teams have periods where they rest on the ball and conserve energy. Even the teams that press aggressively do so in a structured way that makes it difficult for the opponent to play out. This manager does not believe in that. He believes in kamikaze football and nothing else, and it's a sign of his proximity to the P45 that we played more conservatively today than we ever have before under him. He is panicking big time because his ideas have taken us to the edge of a relegation battle.
 
HampshireSpur said:
I agree with the general gist of what you're saying, but I'd want assurances that there is a quality candidate available NOW to manage us in the cups.

I don't want to see a repeat of the Mourinho situation from a few years ago when we sacked him off for poor form, hoping for a new manager bounce, but the new manager was Mason who had zero management experience.
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I honestly don't think Mason would do worse. I'd be happy to give Mason the rest of the season to advertise himself for someone else, if that's what it came to.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
You think that's personal abuse? Grow a set FFS!!

This fraud fucker from Aus is done - move him the fuck on.
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It's obviously personal abuse by any measure, same as telling another poster to f*** off (as you did moments ago on another thread) is too. Anyway...

I get Ange is frustrating - I agree, actually. My question remains - who's your pref. to take over?
 
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