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Transfers January Transfer Thread 24/25

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_mehstg said:
I love posts like this... here's your five... now stop thinking Ange was anything other than an after thought.

Slot didn't fancy it after speaking to Levy
Fonseca decided to stay at Lille
Naglesmann decided the German gig was better
Alonso turned us down to continue his Leverkusen project (good choice)
Amorin decided to stay in Portugal with Sporting who took 4 points off us in CL.
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It was a genuine question buddy. I knew about Slot. Hadn't heard we'd approached any of the others. Assumed Fonseca was a no go after the Nuno appointment. Nagelsman ruled himself out straight away. Amorim plays a back 3 and the brief was very much not to go there again. Alonso also a complete surprise to me.

Funnily enough you didn't even mention the two I HAD heard about - De Zerbi and Enrique 🤷‍♂️
 
_mehstg said:
I love posts like this... here's your five... now stop thinking Ange was anything other than an after thought.

Slot didn't fancy it after speaking to Levy
Fonseca decided to stay at Lille
Naglesmann decided the German gig was better
Alonso turned us down to continue his Leverkusen project (good choice)
Amorin decided to stay in Portugal with Sporting who took 4 points off us in CL.
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Slot himself said he wanted to stay at Feyenoord. Or was he lying? Why would he?
Fonseca was interviewed to replace Mourinho and was discarded as an option two years before Ange joined us.
Nagelsmann, no idea, but I recall it being reported we didn’t even speak to him. Happy to be proved wrong though.
Alonso apparently turned down Liverpool and Madrid. Doubt he even picks the phone up if we’d called him. Maybe who we wanted, but doubt we got as far as a hello.
Amorim had said he was happy at Sporting. Rumour was he didn’t want to work with Levy, so I’d be surprised if that went down the line much either.

To be considered on the list of possible managers, surely there has to be initial interest from both parties? Don’t think any of these fit that bill.

I’m also not saying Ange was first choice. Like you, I have not the first clue what goes on at the club.
 
White Hart said:
Good reason for them not to want to stay at the club.
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Unfortunately Ange has no faith in our youth players. Only certain ones we have purchased. We have 3 young CBs of which 2 are on loan. We will have no idea if any are good unless we give them game time. At the mo we should try to give dorrington some minutes as he is at the club. Other clubs can integrate their academy players so why can’t we. Dippers won the league cup with their youth.
 
AberdeenYid said:
Slot himself said he wanted to stay at Feyenoord. Or was he lying? Why would he?
Fonseca was interviewed to replace Mourinho and was discarded as an option two years before Ange joined us.
Nagelsmann, no idea, but I recall it being reported we didn’t even speak to him. Happy to be proved wrong though.
Alonso apparently turned down Liverpool and Madrid. Doubt he even picks the phone up if we’d called him. Maybe who we wanted, but doubt we got as far as a hello.
Amorim had said he was happy at Sporting. Rumour was he didn’t want to work with Levy, so I’d be surprised if that went down the line much either.

To be considered on the list of possible managers, surely there has to be initial interest from both parties? Don’t think any of these fit that bill.

I’m also not saying Ange was first choice. Like you, I have not the first clue what goes on at the club.
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The amount of times I read stuff like this is laughable.
What a manager says in that situation has no credibility.
He may well be saying the truth but if levy and co wouldn't pay the realise fee and he wanted to leave and as we know it didn't happen, what is slott gonna say? Yeah I was desperate to get out of here but it didn't happen and then stay there for another year with everyone knowing he wanted to leave
 
dondo said:
The amount of times I read stuff like this is laughable.
What a manager says in that situation has no credibility.
He may well be saying the truth but if levy and co wouldn't pay the realise fee and he wanted to leave and as we know it didn't happen, what is slott gonna say? Yeah I was desperate to get out of here but it didn't happen and then stay there for another year with everyone knowing he wanted to leave
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Even the Feyenoord CEO was recently quoted as saying basically slot only signed the contract extension cause he knew spurs weren’t gonna pay the compensation Feyenoord were demanding,it was only to save face.
 
AberdeenYid said:
Slot himself said he wanted to stay at Feyenoord. Or was he lying? Why would he?
Fonseca was interviewed to replace Mourinho and was discarded as an option two years before Ange joined us.
Nagelsmann, no idea, but I recall it being reported we didn’t even speak to him. Happy to be proved wrong though.
Alonso apparently turned down Liverpool and Madrid. Doubt he even picks the phone up if we’d called him. Maybe who we wanted, but doubt we got as far as a hello.
Amorim had said he was happy at Sporting. Rumour was he didn’t want to work with Levy, so I’d be surprised if that went down the line much either.

To be considered on the list of possible managers, surely there has to be initial interest from both parties? Don’t think any of these fit that bill.

I’m also not saying Ange was first choice. Like you, I have not the first clue what goes on at the club.
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Slot is very much the beneficiary (so far) of a lot of Prem weirdness.

Long way to go before a real assessment can be made in my opinion.
 
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dondo said:
The amount of times I read stuff like this is laughable.
What a manager says in that situation has no credibility.
He may well be saying the truth but if levy and co wouldn't pay the realise fee and he wanted to leave and as we know it didn't happen, what is slott gonna say? Yeah I was desperate to get out of here but it didn't happen and then stay there for another year with everyone knowing he wanted to leave
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Yes, he’d be daft to say anything else. But a quote from someone involved is as close as we have to any facts on this. A poster on here claiming that we wouldn’t meet a release fee holds a lot less credibility.
 
_mehstg said:
I love posts like this... here's your five... now stop thinking Ange was anything other than an after thought.

Slot didn't fancy it after speaking to Levy
Fonseca decided to stay at Lille
Naglesmann decided the German gig was better
Alonso turned us down to continue his Leverkusen project (good choice)
Amorin decided to stay in Portugal with Sporting who took 4 points off us in CL.
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Fonseca was well up for it but was knocked back by Paratici, because he publicly complained about it.

You got any links to the others (not Slot) ?
 
Kaz Hirai said:
Nagelsmann wasn't in the frame for the Germany job at that time .

He was my number one pick but it was all quite odd. he was approached by Chelsea, looked close at their project and rightfully decided it was a terrible idea as he'd have no control over player incomings and outgoings.
Clear path for us, reports in Germany seemed like it was gonna happen . Then we randomly came out with a statement saying we admire him but we aren't interested
Nothing from Nagelsmann's camp, just our lot saying we have not intention to meet

Very odd, either the club for some bizarre reason weren't interested, maybe got wind of his Chelsea demands or we just had no plans to be too ambitious again and work at a much slower and cheaper pace with a guy who won't rock the boat

You also forgot Dezerbi from your list, supposedly turned us down too
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Was strange club made a statement saying we weren’t interested in him even though he may not have been interested in him. May be Munn all the time wanted fellow Aussie Ange?
 
spids said:
We are well stocked at LWF, and have been incredibly unlucky with injuries. And Son is subsequently overplayed and bang out of form. When he was playing 60 minutes once a week (as he started the season doing) he was fine. Werner is crap - I'll give you that. Odobert has incredible potential and is far better on the left - a proper 'dribbly' winger who can go past multiple defenders off either foot. A real shame he got injured before he really got a chance. Moore is also best on the left. I'd say we are weaker at RW as Kulusevski is showing he is better in the CAM/CM, Johnson is one dimensional (and needs good crosses from the left - which have totally dried up with Son never trying to go past his man on the outside).

I'd actually like to see Ange experiment a bit more and try playing Maddison on the RW, or even putting Son out on that side and telling him to beat his man and whip crosses in. Worth noting that so far, Richy has probably been our most effective LWF under Ange, and he returns next week form injury. Whilst I do not think Richy is a top class WF, he played 'Ange ball' the best, and understood the movement, passing angles, and pressing requirements. He also linked up very well with Udogie.

LW:
  • Odobert (injured)
  • Son (over played / out of form)
  • Moore (ill)
  • Richy (injured)
  • Werner (crap / lack of confidence)

RW;
  • Kulusevski (better in CM)
  • Johnson (one dimensional)
  • Yang (unknown quantity)
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Need to quietly offload Johnson at some point so we can get in a real creative RW. Luckily, while we have Maddison, Kulu is free to cover RW. I agree about LW- think between Odobert and Moore we should have it taken care of this next season.
 
Matt1882 said:
I think it's far too early to say Odobert or Moore are going to make an impact. We just don’t know.
Son is no more than an impact sub IMO. He has less of an impact on games outside of the odd goal contribution than either Werner or Johnson.
To clarify this, I mean he's often so anonymous that he's not affecting the way the game is being played at all.
The other 2 at least stay busy running at the opposition and give them something to think about.

Kinda reminds me of Ronaldo at United. Outside of his goals there were arguments the team was worse with him in it.
Except that one game where he beat us 3-2 on his own
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Sonny has 5 goals and 6 assists in the Premier League this season. Brennan has 7 goals and 2 assists in the league games.
Werner has 3 assists, no goals. His contribution just doesn't come close to the other 2.
 
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