"Oh that's just how it is with old grandpa you know- we're all scared when he gets behind the wheel, but we have to live with it!"
-
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
Manager Ange Postecoglou
- Thread starter The Fighting Cock
- Start date
Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports
BJ needs a good coach to help him improve in taking his man on out on the wing, otherwise we will lose money trying to sell him. I don't think he can play as a lone striker except in a counter system (like Liverpool did with Diaz to us), but perhaps if we change system to a 2 striker system like Brentford he could have some ability to play as part of a "big man-little man" pairing, playing the more mobile role off a target man like Solanke.
It's gonna be tough selling Brennan for more than we bought him for. And maybe impossible. We'll just have to deal with that.
Maddison looks visibily disenchanted. Kulu looks disappointed but not bitter.
Definitely lends some credence to the theories that Maddison had a behind-the-scenes falling out with Ange lately.
The hard part isn’t the tap in, it’s being in position to tap it in.
You are basically saying anyone could have been Gary Lineker
Definitely will be hard to get any good price for him. But still cheaper to do that than underperforming for another season. It's clear as day that he's the weakest link.
The last 4 games when BJ didn't start:
Man City 0-4
Southampton 0-5 (all goals scored the 45 minutes BJ didn't play)
Man U Went up 3-0 quickly
Liverpool 3-6. Only bad result in those games but nobody thinks the outcome would've been any different had BJ played.
It's so clear that we're a better unit without him.
Kulu, Solanke, Sonny and Madders. That's all we need to start with when fit. BJ can be one of the subs along with Richy and Odobert, but he's never a starter. He's a dud.
No, Lineker could do much more than that.
A Gary Lineker on the wing scoring 1 goal every 3 games and not doing much else at all wouldn’t be very useful or valuable in 2024.
I can see the logic here.
Ange requires his team to run, a lot and constantly. Maddison covers a lot of ground during a game but he isn't a runner in the way that Ange wants.
That they have probably fallen out is a shame since Maddison coming down deep to pick up the ball has been the catalyst of most of our best attacks this season.
At this rate it isn't too wild to say that one of them, Ange or Maddison, will leave in the summer.
I agree, but I think it's the least likely case. I obviously wouldn't put it past them, but IMO they're keeping him because, like it or not, they're seeing something in him worth hanging onto.
Whether the magic of those 10 matches still persists, or they're getting the impression from the amount of goals we scored this season that we will be fine as soon as Romero and VdV are back (and maybe after we sign a defender or two), or his captivating aura as an ideologue clouds their judgment and leads to them being less result-oriented in their evaluation of him compared to how they evaluated previous managers, or any combination of those, it seems they'll continue being very patient with him.
Is this a gross misjudgment? Possibly. Is it just lack of ambition? No.
This patience is of course not unlimited, but they may not run out of it as quickly as some people here hope. Because of the reasons outlined above
Last edited:
Not the conversation we were having
The amount of our 'fans' who don't understand this is frankly incredible...total lack of football knowledge...embarrassing.
It was the way he said "no, yeah it's not our waaa...it's not Anges way to sit back at any point.errrrmmm...I'm very proud of the lads who kept going, it can be very easy to(takes a huge breath and pauses) just try to sit back to stop anymore chances and keep it to a minimum especially when they get like ..the 5th"
He's knows it's ridiculous.
He has 100% stopped drinking the Kool aid.
16 points behind Nuno’s Forrest. Impressive
We're heading in the right direction though
That's why he isn't starting despite being our top scorer. Same reason I think Spence wasn't given a chance until all the injuries forced it. He's looking to get rid of anyone doubting him and then his favourites come out saying how amazing Ange is. Is that how he's getting the protection and why he hasn't been sacked yet? Because of the backing of the players?
Romero was an example of a player speaking out for Ange.
It's clear that something other than actual ability is keeping certain players out of the team.
Our position in table is a disgrace. Ange needs to buck up now. Its getting precarious.
Well, if he's so good at it, why hasn't he scored even more tap ins and being at the right spot? You can equally well sk that question. Embarrassing.
You judge a footballer by how many tap ins he scores. That's ridiculous. Look at the package. What can he achieve among limited players who can't give him the tap in? Nothing! 1 goal this season that was non tap in. That's the lowest of lowest among the premier league forwards.
He's at the right place because the ball comes to the back post. He's at the back post because he's playing next to Solanke who's in the middle. Naturally, he's always going to be there if the ball is passed there. There's no 6th sense about it. It's just about being in that position while the opposite wing serves it to you an a plate.
If that's all you're good for, you're a waste of space in elite football.