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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I agree that there is something wrong when so many players get injured 2 season in a row...but, contrary to what I've read on various social media, Solanke did have a few injuries before he joined Spurs:


njury history

Injury history, suspensions and absences are based on a variety of media reports and are researched with the greatest of care. If you should notice an error regardless, please use the correction form. To the correction form
Compact
Detailed
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[th][/th]​
[th]
from
[/th][th][/th]​
[th]
Days
[/th][th][/th]​
[td]
24/25​
[/td]​
[td]Ankle injury[/td]
[td]
Aug 21, 2024​
[/td][td]
Sep 9, 2024​
[/td]​
[td]
20 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Tottenham Hotspur2​
[/td]​
[td]
22/23​
[/td]​
[td]Knee injury[/td]
[td]
Jan 13, 2023​
[/td][td]
Feb 6, 2023​
[/td]​
[td]
25 days​
[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth3​
[/td]​
[td]
20/21​
[/td]​
[td]Ankle injury[/td]
[td]
Feb 3, 2021​
[/td][td]
Feb 25, 2021​
[/td]​
[td]
23 days​
[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth6​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]Hamstring injury[/td]
[td]
Apr 28, 2019​
[/td][td]
May 31, 2019​
[/td]​
[td]
34 days​
[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth2​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]Muscle strain[/td]
[td]
Feb 24, 2019​
[/td][td]
Mar 8, 2019​
[/td]​
[td]
13 days​
[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth2​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]Hamstring injury[/td]
[td]
Dec 23, 2018​
[/td][td]
Jan 30, 2019​
[/td]​
[td]
39 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FCAFC Bournemouth7​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]Groin strain[/td]
[td]
Nov 25, 2018​
[/td][td]
Jan 29, 2019​
[/td]​
[td]
66 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FCAFC Bournemouth13​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]concussion[/td]
[td]
Sep 16, 2018​
[/td][td]
Sep 25, 2018​
[/td]​
[td]
10 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FC2​
[/td]​
[td]
15/16​
[/td]​
[td]Achilles tendon problems[/td]
[td]
Feb 4, 2016​
[/td][td]
Mar 14, 2016​
[/td]​
[td]
40 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Vitesse ArnhemEngland U1713​
[/td]​
Total
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[th]
Days
[/th][th][/th][th][/th]​
[td]
24/25​
[/td]​
[td]
20 days​
[/td][td]
1​
[/td][td]
2​
[/td]​
[td]
22/23​
[/td]​
[td]
25 days​
[/td][td]
1​
[/td][td]
3​
[/td]​
[td]
20/21​
[/td]​
[td]
23 days​
[/td][td]
1​
[/td][td]
6​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]
162 days​
[/td][td]
5​
[/td][td]
26​
[/td]​
[td]
15/16​
[/td]​
[td]
40 days​
[/td][td]
1​
[/td][td]
1​
[/td]​
 
I agree that there is something wrong when so many players get injured 2 season in a row...but, contrary to what I've read on various social media, Solanke did have a few injuries before he joined Spurs:


Compact
Detailed

[th][/th]​
[th][/th]​
[th]
from
[/th][th][/th]​
[th]
Days
[/th][th][/th]​
[td]
24/25​
[/td]​
[td]Ankle injury[/td]
[td]
Aug 21, 2024​
[/td][td]
Sep 9, 2024​
[/td]​
[td]
20 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Tottenham Hotspur2​
[/td]​
[td]
22/23​
[/td]​
[td]Knee injury[/td]
[td]
Jan 13, 2023​
[/td][td]
Feb 6, 2023​
[/td]​
[td]
25 days​
[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth3​
[/td]​
[td]
20/21​
[/td]​
[td]Ankle injury[/td]
[td]
Feb 3, 2021​
[/td][td]
Feb 25, 2021​
[/td]​
[td]
23 days​
[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth6​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]Hamstring injury[/td]
[td]
Apr 28, 2019​
[/td][td]
May 31, 2019​
[/td]​
[td]
34 days​
[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth2​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]Muscle strain[/td]
[td]
Feb 24, 2019​
[/td][td]
Mar 8, 2019​
[/td]​
[td]
13 days​
[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth2​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]Hamstring injury[/td]
[td]
Dec 23, 2018​
[/td][td]
Jan 30, 2019​
[/td]​
[td]
39 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FCAFC Bournemouth7​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]Groin strain[/td]
[td]
Nov 25, 2018​
[/td][td]
Jan 29, 2019​
[/td]​
[td]
66 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FCAFC Bournemouth13​
[/td]​
[td]
18/19​
[/td]​
[td]concussion[/td]
[td]
Sep 16, 2018​
[/td][td]
Sep 25, 2018​
[/td]​
[td]
10 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FC2​
[/td]​
[td]
15/16​
[/td]​
[td]Achilles tendon problems[/td]
[td]
Feb 4, 2016​
[/td][td]
Mar 14, 2016​
[/td]​
[td]
40 days​
[/td]​
[td]
Vitesse ArnhemEngland U1713​
[/td]​








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[/td]​
[td]


[/td]
[td]


[/td]
[td]


[/td]​
 
When he is gone we need to get a manager that is used to, and fine with, developing and fielding players from the youth team.

Levy is never going to sanction building a actually deep team through the transfer market. It's just never going to happen. So we need a manager that can take the players that he gets in the market, and combine it with bringing players up from the academy to create depth.

Hell, I'd look at a manager that has experience from Bilbao.
 
I agree that there is something wrong when so many players get injured 2 season in a row...but, contrary to what I've read on various social media, Solanke did have a few injuries before he joined Spurs:








 
I agree that there is something wrong when so many players get injured 2 season in a row...but, contrary to what I've read on various social media, Solanke did have a few injuries before he joined Spurs:



njury history

Injury history, suspensions and absences are based on a variety of media reports and are researched with the greatest of care. If you should notice an error regardless, please use the correction form. To the correction form
Compact
Detailed


[th]
Season

[/th]​
[th]
Injury

[/th]​
[th]
from

[/th][th]
until

[/th]​
[th]
Days

[/th][th]
Games missed

[/th]​
[td]
24/25

[/td]​
[td]Ankle injury[/td]
[td]
Aug 21, 2024

[/td][td]
Sep 9, 2024

[/td]​
[td]
20 days

[/td]​
[td]
Tottenham Hotspur2


[/td]​
[td]
22/23

[/td]​
[td]Knee injury[/td]
[td]
Jan 13, 2023

[/td][td]
Feb 6, 2023

[/td]​
[td]
25 days

[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth3


[/td]​
[td]
20/21

[/td]​
[td]Ankle injury[/td]
[td]
Feb 3, 2021

[/td][td]
Feb 25, 2021

[/td]​
[td]
23 days

[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth6


[/td]​
[td]
18/19

[/td]​
[td]Hamstring injury[/td]
[td]
Apr 28, 2019

[/td][td]
May 31, 2019

[/td]​
[td]
34 days

[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth2


[/td]​
[td]
18/19

[/td]​
[td]Muscle strain[/td]
[td]
Feb 24, 2019

[/td][td]
Mar 8, 2019

[/td]​
[td]
13 days

[/td]​
[td]
AFC Bournemouth2


[/td]​
[td]
18/19

[/td]​
[td]Hamstring injury[/td]
[td]
Dec 23, 2018

[/td][td]
Jan 30, 2019

[/td]​
[td]
39 days

[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FCAFC Bournemouth7


[/td]​
[td]
18/19

[/td]​
[td]Groin strain[/td]
[td]
Nov 25, 2018

[/td][td]
Jan 29, 2019

[/td]​
[td]
66 days

[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FCAFC Bournemouth13


[/td]​
[td]
18/19

[/td]​
[td]concussion[/td]
[td]
Sep 16, 2018

[/td][td]
Sep 25, 2018

[/td]​
[td]
10 days

[/td]​
[td]
Liverpool FC2


[/td]​
[td]
15/16

[/td]​
[td]Achilles tendon problems[/td]
[td]
Feb 4, 2016

[/td][td]
Mar 14, 2016

[/td]​
[td]
40 days

[/td]​
[td]
Vitesse ArnhemEngland U1713


[/td]​

Total


[th]
Season

[/th]​
[th]
Days

[/th][th]
Injuries

[/th][th]
Games missed

[/th]​
[td]
24/25

[/td]​
[td]
20 days

[/td][td]
1

[/td][td]
2

[/td]​
[td]
22/23

[/td]​
[td]
25 days

[/td][td]
1

[/td][td]
3

[/td]​
[td]
20/21

[/td]​
[td]
23 days

[/td][td]
1

[/td][td]
6

[/td]​
[td]
18/19

[/td]​
[td]
162 days

[/td][td]
5

[/td][td]
26

[/td]​
[td]
15/16

[/td]​
[td]
40 days

[/td][td]
1

[/td][td]
1

[/td]​
Problem I have is Ange is the one who sacked half our physios and medical staff. Remember physios normally give the players daily massages and can feel what kind of condition their body is in.

Also Spurs currently have no fitness coach or strength and conditioning
 
Just realising we could well be the only big English club looking for a manager in the summer. This could well be playing into Levy's thoughts. Just make it to June and then get the guy you really want (Iraola, McKenna, whoever).

United - just got Amorim. No way are they sacking him this summer
Liverpool - Slot probably wins them the league
City - Pep, new contract just signed
Arse - Arteta, not going anywhere, could still be in with a shout of the league & CL
Chelsea - Maresca probably won't go anywhere bar the most almighty collapse
Villa - would be mad to get rid of Emery
Newcastle - ditto with Howe

Nobody else is big enough to viably challenge us for Iraola. Even abroad it's only the likes of PSG, Bayern, Barca, Real etc and I don't see any of them going for the Bournemouth manager.

It's basically us or he tells us to do one (à la Slot) and hang around another year for a better job offer. Which is a possibility. Important we don't finish too low cos nobody wants to take over a shitshow in 15th.

To me, this is the only thing that makes sense as to why Ange is still in a job. They already know their list of guys they really want but none are willing to join til the summer, so they need a firefighter for 6 months (à la Hiddink) and that is proving harder to find.
 
Gotta admit I am morbidly curious about seeing just when the "we must let a manager finish the job for once!!!!" crew would change their tune.
They wouldn't. It's March 1945 and they are guarding Hitlers bunker. It's basically their personality now, admitting they were wrong all this time would cause too much of a mental collapse for these people. They've hitched their whole personality to Ange being the one. Admitting they were wrong now would be akin to admitting they know nothing about football.
 
Just realising we could well be the only big English club looking for a manager in the summer. This could well be playing into Levy's thoughts. Just make it to June and then get the guy you really want (Iraola, McKenna, whoever).

United - just got Amorim. No way are they sacking him this summer
Liverpool - Slot probably wins them the league
City - Pep, new contract just signed
Arse - Arteta, not going anywhere, could still be in with a shout of the league & CL
Chelsea - Maresca probably won't go anywhere bar the most almighty collapse
Villa - would be mad to get rid of Emery
Newcastle - ditto with Howe

Nobody else is big enough to viably challenge us for Iraola. Even abroad it's only the likes of PSG, Bayern, Barca, Real etc and I don't see any of them going for the Bournemouth manager.

It's basically us or he tells us to do one (à la Slot) and hang around another year for a better job offer. Which is a possibility. Important we don't finish too low cos nobody wants to take over a shitshow in 15th.

To me, this is the only thing that makes sense as to why Ange is still in a job. They already know their list of guys they really want but none are willing to join til the summer, so they need a firefighter for 6 months (à la Hiddink) and that is proving harder to find.
Always a big big risk for a manager to hold on and wait another year to find a bigger job! Football moves fast and if you take your chance at a big job (the Tottenham job is still huge) you run the risk of having a bad year (say Bournemouth finish 15th playing twice a week) and then the club moving on.
 
Always a big big risk for a manager to hold on and wait another year to find a bigger job! Football moves fast and if you take your chance at a big job (the Tottenham job is still huge) you run the risk of having a bad year (say Bournemouth finish 15th playing twice a week) and then the club moving on.
Yep, absolutely. And I suspect Slot was in fact rather keen to join us and only "changed his mind" once it because clear Levy wouldn't pay Feyenoord's release clause.

As for Iraola, I guess it depends partly on his level of confidence, partly what he makes of Spurs' squad and situation.

If he's super confident he can keep Bournemouth improving next year then I could see him sticking around and holding out for maybe a Woolwich or Chelsea in case that becomes available in summer 2026.

But, and like you say it's a big but, you never know what happens in football and Bournemouth could easily drop off through no fault of his own, and suddenly he's yesterday's news.

For example, look at De Zerbi. Summer 2023 he was flavour of the month, had Brighton flying. But arguably he flew too close to the sun, because once in the Europa it became clear they didn't have the squad to compete in multiple competitions; they had an injury crisis and their league form fell off a cliff. Now he's at Marseille when he could easily have been at a United or Barca by now. (For the record I'd still 100% take De Zerbi).

As for what a prospective manager would make of Spurs situation, I actually think it's rather positive. Our squad currently looks much worse than the sum of its parts because we have a bad manager. But on paper there is a ton of ability there, much more than what Mou and Conte had to deal with.

And we have a stadium churning out cash so our owner isn't afraid to spend—we have the second largest net spend and total spend in the league since Ange joined. I think we're quite a tempting prospect still. More so if the other big clubs aren't looking for a new manager, which I don't think they will be.
 
Hope Liverpool absolutely fucking batter us on Wednesday. Goodnight.

If a 10-nil drubbing meant we saw the back of this clown with Iraola in post by the end of January then I'd buy an Everton shirt tonight.

Another shirt in this economy? Save yourself some cash.

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There's been too much "full support" noise being leaked recently for me to be convinced that the board is ready to replace him. Although there are two rumors out there regarding Levy having had contact with other managers, I can't expect that they would reverse themselves and make a move quickly even if we lose to Everton.
 
Yep, absolutely. And I suspect Slot was in fact rather keen to join us and only "changed his mind" once it because clear Levy wouldn't pay Feyenoord's release clause.

As for Iraola, I guess it depends partly on his level of confidence, partly what he makes of Spurs' squad and situation.

If he's super confident he can keep Bournemouth improving next year then I could see him sticking around and holding out for maybe a Woolwich or Chelsea in case that becomes available in summer 2026.

But, and like you say it's a big but, you never know what happens in football and Bournemouth could easily drop off through no fault of his own, and suddenly he's yesterday's news.

For example, look at De Zerbi. Summer 2023 he was flavour of the month, had Brighton flying. But arguably he flew too close to the sun, because once in the Europa it became clear they didn't have the squad to compete in multiple competitions; they had an injury crisis and their league form fell off a cliff. Now he's at Marseille when he could easily have been at a United or Barca by now. (For the record I'd still 100% take De Zerbi).

As for what a prospective manager would make of Spurs situation, I actually think it's rather positive. Our squad currently looks much worse than the sum of its parts because we have a bad manager. But on paper there is a ton of ability there, much more than what Mou and Conte had to deal with.

And we have a stadium churning out cash so our owner isn't afraid to spend—we have the second largest net spend and total spend in the league since Ange joined. I think we're quite a tempting prospect still. More so if the other big clubs aren't looking for a new manager, which I don't think they will be.
I was going to mention Di Zerbi! Not sure he gets a sniff at another big big job after the marseille stuff and the players he bought in.

I’d bet a few quid that Liverpool knew Koop was going and told slot about the longer term plans!

I can see a situation with Bournemouth where they sell a few players, can’t replace the quality and then find themselves in a situation where the games in Europe take their toll and they plumit like we have! Then all of a sudden he is looking at the mid table jobs at best!

He would be the only one I’d fire Ange for!

Frank would be so underwhelming, he is a good coach! But has echoes of the Nuno hiring
 
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