And “we’d be top 5 but injuries”.
And old faithful would be wheeled out “remember those first 10 games … high ceiling low floor “
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And old faithful would be wheeled out “remember those first 10 games … high ceiling low floor “
I keep reading people saying things like “let him see the season out and we’ll see how next season is with all our players back”
….if we finish 12th-17th, do people not realise that these players might not be our players anymore?
And where do you think we’re shopping? Levy didn’t even follow up making the champions league final by buying better players to get us over the line, why is he going to suddenly sign world beaters if we avoid relegation?
Honestly do some people not see how far we’ve regressed? We have absolutely plummeted under this manger, through the floor, into the basement and on, we’re closer to Mordor than we are Europe.
If we finish in a crap position as is hugely likely, Romero likely goes, and teams from various countries will be circling (whether you rate the players or not) around VDV, Porro, Udogie, Spence, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Kulu, probably even Solanke… now of course I’m not saying they all go at once, but if a few of them feel they’re good enough for Europe they may well, and then what faith have you got in Levy to replace them well?
That’s before you even hand them over to our pub manager for his third season, where we will no doubt have another ‘unprecendented’ injury crisis.
It isn’t as simple as just saying let him finish where he does and crack on next year.
….if we finish 12th-17th, do people not realise that these players might not be our players anymore?
And where do you think we’re shopping? Levy didn’t even follow up making the champions league final by buying better players to get us over the line, why is he going to suddenly sign world beaters if we avoid relegation?
Honestly do some people not see how far we’ve regressed? We have absolutely plummeted under this manger, through the floor, into the basement and on, we’re closer to Mordor than we are Europe.
If we finish in a crap position as is hugely likely, Romero likely goes, and teams from various countries will be circling (whether you rate the players or not) around VDV, Porro, Udogie, Spence, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Kulu, probably even Solanke… now of course I’m not saying they all go at once, but if a few of them feel they’re good enough for Europe they may well, and then what faith have you got in Levy to replace them well?
That’s before you even hand them over to our pub manager for his third season, where we will no doubt have another ‘unprecendented’ injury crisis.
It isn’t as simple as just saying let him finish where he does and crack on next year.
Regardless of manager, we need squad depth to compete domestically and in Europe. I was responding to a comment solely blaming our style of play for the injuries.
I was only talking about teams that look tired and how it hurts them.
I'm under no illusion we look tired because our idiot Circus Tavern league manager has managed to run the players into the ground through lack of rotation and squad management. City have been competing on 4 fronts season after season going deep into the cups every year. we played the 2nd least amount of games ever in the the PL era last season behind only.....us. And still players looked shagged and got injured all the time.
This isn't funny because it's true.
This mental delusional behaviour from fans is actually rapidly becoming more of a problem than Ange himself.
It seems to play a part in the injuries.
How much squad depth do we need. It’s starting to look like we’d need to spend city money to make it work.
If we were 10th, I could understand. But 15th is inexcusable.
Why is that, where are they going?
They can't just suddenly up and leave when they feel like it?
No, it really was not.
I was discussing the upcoming season in office with a colleague who follows football.
I said that we had been absolute shit in last 1/3 of the season and literally everything was falling apart. We did not have leadership sorted and Son being captain is shambolic. We don't adapt in any way and in game management is not there. I looked at our fixture list and said that "My guess is that last season shitshow carries on, we will have tough fixture list and among it is pre-Xmas game against Liverpool. I am afraid we go into it with poor run of form, Liverpool destroys us at home. We are in poor position in league, Levy will pull the trigger and Ange can still get in on mall-santa-action with his big belly and beard."
Then the season kicked off. We got off with 1 win in 4 games (!) note that all Ange lovers (!) . With some clueless comments about "deserving more but being dissapointed". Then there was Coventry shitshow that we managed to turn around literally within last minutes.
Then fortunes turned and even I became bit more optimistic. We did manage to win 9 out of next 10 games across all competitions which was good. I was not at all bugged by losing to Galatasaray either - because we kept doing what we had been doing up to that point - lot of rotation, resting the senior players and giving outlet to kids. Like Lankshear. Who also scored in that one. I understood what Ange was going for, just it did not fully happen. There are such games, no biggie.
But thats when all went to total shit. Losing to Ipswich at home - absolute shock and monumental fuckup. Literally one of the worst results in past decades - to let promoted team get their first victory at our home stadium?!?! Wow. And we never really recovered from that.
OK - it was cool winning vs City. Cause they played in the way that suits our half-tactic. But that was it, since then ... I don't want to comment on anything at all. Southampton win was literally a cherry on top of pile of shit. And cherry on top of shit does not make it a cake.
In the end the prediction was accurate. Letting Pool score 6 (!) against us at walking pace at home is absolutely unforgivable!
But somehow since then we have managed to just sit here without doing anything and have become absolute laughing stock of European football. 5 points from last 10 games! For some, being able to win firs half in 180 min game and needing extra time against non-league side (for first time in century I think?!?) is somehow enough to keep kicking this empty can down the road. I am baffled. We need restart.
things like this make you realise how many idiots are out there. quite scary.
Something has to be going on in the background. Whether it’s a new manager lined up who knows. No way this guy still has a job and at the very least is not being backed with players.
Probably some clause in Ange’s contract stating if he is sacked after March 2025 his severance payout is half what it would be prior or something. Or Levy really wants to go down with the ship.
Probably some clause in Ange’s contract stating if he is sacked after March 2025 his severance payout is half what it would be prior or something. Or Levy really wants to go down with the ship.
They are in longer nowadays mate but not everyday. Some days its optional to stay on but some days they do different programmes in the afternoon specific to what the individual need. They also do more community work nowadays.
They have everything at Tottenham for injury prevention and recovery that I find it mind boggling that we have so many muscle injuries.
I’ve mentioned this before,maybe there’s something in being too finely tuned and any wrong movement leads to a muscle strain.
I have my thoughts on this. I played for a long time on shit training pitches and poor pitches especially in the months from November to April and the pitches were all uneven and was never injured. Maybe because of the different movements on different surfaces you were stronger and your body adapted better to those types of surfaces.
I see so many players pulling hamstrings ,thighs ,calves nowadays and it wasn’t as bad as that back in the day. I do get that players are naturally quicker now which probably has a lot to do with it to. Who knows
My dad used to play a bit of football himself back in the day (with Dave MacKay’s son, funnily enough) and he’s been telling me for ages that he thinks players do too much gym work nowadays
The way people ignore how bad we are with, or without, first team players, and carry on backing him is mental.
It would be like me looking in the mirror every single day and brushing my hair.
I've been bald since 2001.
We played 41 games last season. We knew going into this season we could play 69. We’ve already played 34.
We struggled with injuries and form last year and let many senior players leave in the summer. They were not replaced. We signed kids. What did everyone think was going to happen? Most of us saw this coming before the summer window closed.
Oh, Romero, Van De Ven and Udogie - the most prominent absentees last season - are all fucked again? I am shocked.
Why you can't trust Football Journalists...
I've read articles proclaiming Levy & the club support him but others that Levy doesn't
These dickheads are in the dark as much as us when it comes to 'behind the scenes' & chat utter crap.
David Ornstein is the worst man - he talks out of both faces this is how he speaks :-
'We know *insert team here* have an interest in *insert person here* about *insert topic here* but you never know how it will go'
AKA I don't know fukk all about anything & if I'm wrong then it's not my fault.
I've read articles proclaiming Levy & the club support him but others that Levy doesn't
These dickheads are in the dark as much as us when it comes to 'behind the scenes' & chat utter crap.
David Ornstein is the worst man - he talks out of both faces this is how he speaks :-
'We know *insert team here* have an interest in *insert person here* about *insert topic here* but you never know how it will go'
AKA I don't know fukk all about anything & if I'm wrong then it's not my fault.
Was ETH a brilliant manager for ManU ?
Would you have kept him in charge if it was your decision to make?
Its a shitstorm of enormous dimension
You need a comb.
Yeah it’s incredible negligence from everyone.
But ange doesn’t seem to like rotating anyway. He’d rather run Porro into the ground than play Spence.
We’re never getting backup CB’s the level of Romero and VDV. We’d be fucked either way.
I need a miracle, mate.
Or the same therapist the evAngelists need.
Salah and Ronaldo would disagree with your Dad I suspect