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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
SpurFromOz said:
Yep.

Dont know if you noticed but his embargoed section today of the presser, Ange seemed hesitant to defend the ownership, whilst not doing a full on Conte. He was asked whether or not he felt let down by the transfer window, and was asked about the Levy out chants. His response was telling.

It's also the second time he referred to not being able to unify the Club. It was a very telling and awkward conference. It's only my opinion, but based on watching all of his interviews over the past few weeks, the connection between Ange and the board is threadbare.

Im unashamedly Ange in, but I feel he knows it's over barring some miracle.
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It's a good analysis, interestingly, (having worked in elite sport as a psych (watch me get pilloried) ), I see it differently.

Ange is no bullshit, to the point. The fact that he hasn't been sacked yet, presumably due to context, rather than no one else available, to me shows that there is a backing. His pressers are unique in a forthrightness (which some see now as arrogance, as he is undeserving to even be a coach in the PL). The context is injuries and schedule... you either agree with it, or disagree with it.

The other thing is that Ange is not a conservative coach. What I mean by that, is that many many supporters call him naive by not rejigging things due to injury. He sticks to principles because it needs to be embedded irrespective of context.

I'll elaborate if anyone cares :)

Now.. watch him get sacked by Monday ;)
 
Engorged Onion said:
It's a good analysis, interestingly, (having worked in elite sport as a psych (watch me get pilloried) ), I see it differently.

Ange is no bullshit, to the point. The fact that he hasn't been sacked yet, presumably due to context, rather than no one else available, to me shows that there is a backing. His pressers are unique in a forthrightness (which some see now as arrogance, as he is undeserving to even be a coach in the PL). The context is injuries and schedule... you either agree with it, or disagree with it.

The other thing is that Ange is not a conservative coach. What I mean by that, is that many many supporters call him naive by not rejigging things due to injury. He sticks to principles because it needs to be embedded irrespective of context.

I'll elaborate if anyone cares :)

Now.. watch him get sacked by Monday ;)
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Fair call. I don't dispute any of Ange's traits you mention. Again, as a novice I felt a sense of inevitability. I hope Im wrong, most here hope I'm right. That's okay too.
 
SpurFromOz said:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrFN8_aJIKQ&ab_channel=BeanymanSports
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Cheers mate.

Starts from 8 mins for anybody who is interested. Three things stood out to me.

He was trying his hardest not to say the wrong thing but youre right in that he wasn't sucking off the board like he used to.

He seems resigned to the fact he won't be around much longer if things don't change.

The media have finally eased with the condescending shit questions and are going straight to cunting off Levy. Interesting.
 
Richard Arlison said:
What you talking about from Chelsea onwards?

December through January and February we got 1.9 PPG despite losing VDV, Romero, Maddison and then Son to Asiacup and Sarr and Biss to AFCON.

We absolutely did what Bournemouth and Iraola did with 11-12 guys playing once per week.
People just have a weird, irrational hang up about those first 10 games.
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You are so wrong it’s laughable. You’ve managed to become a parody of yourself.
 
Just had my "on this day" status from Facebook
2015 "how has Paul Lambert still got a job?"

Aston Villa were 16th on 23 points.
They sacked him a few weeks later and Sherwood just about kept them up on 38 - 3 points above the relegation zone.
They went the next season. Rock bottom, 17 points. Newcastle also went.

We are not too big to go. The more damage Ange does to our image, the harder it'll be to find a capable replacement or bolster the squad.
 
SpurFromOz said:
Yep.

Dont know if you noticed but his embargoed section today of the presser, Ange seemed hesitant to defend the ownership, whilst not doing a full on Conte. He was asked whether or not he felt let down by the transfer window, and was asked about the Levy out chants. His response was telling.

It's also the second time he referred to not being able to unify the Club. It was a very telling and awkward conference. It's only my opinion, but based on watching all of his interviews over the past few weeks, the connection between Ange and the board is threadbare.

Im unashamedly Ange in, but I feel he knows it's over barring some miracle.
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Tend to agree with you. The ship is sinking and he hasn’t received the support he thought he would get from the board ( re recruitment). He’s not glossing over anything anymore.
But! I’m actually still believing he can win atleast 2 trophies. The players are still backing him, the youngsters are good enough to play off the bench a bit and alleviate some pressure, and players are coming back in soon.
As Ange says, there’s a hell of a lot to still play for.
 
Richard Arlison said:
For those Ange Outers with a hard on for Iraola, his last club Rayo Vallecano are up to 6th in La Liga. They are better than they were under Iraola. I guess that means you’d all prefer to cut to the chase and get Inigo Perez?
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Happily - guarantee at the very least he is a more sophisticated coach than the Aussie Binman.

Also don’t see an issue with Iraola leaving a good team/foundation behind and someone continuing to build on it.
 
Deuterz said:
Not really. Occasionally someone enters it after we have shit like losing to Leicester at home but most of it is a bunch of fucking happy clappers sat in a circle wanking off to their cult leader who has us in a relegation fight.

There doesn’t need to be a hate thread, most normal people think that being in this position in February is completely unacceptable. Some might not be passionate about wanting him out but in terms of support it’s you, rich and some Australians who will fuck off the second the trigger is pulled.

And you’re not even an Ange supporter, just a wind up merchant. You back Levy when it suits and now back Ange because it gets more reactions. When Levy is more unpopular you’ll piss off back to the ENIC thread again and bump that when we win one in five or something with ‘my chairman’.

If Ange was REALLY popular on here and all the hate was towards ENIC, you’d be all over supporting them. You know it, I know it, the whole fucking forum knows it.
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I'd rather be having a happy clapper wank in there than the weird emo cry wanks that seem to go on in every other thread.

Each to their own though I guess
 
Brian Fantana said:
I opened that thinking I can’t really be bothered to listen to him again but I am glad I did. Obvious from the words he’s frustrated and feeling like he’s not getting the support from above. He’s changed his tune on getting players in too. Gone from desperate to not bringing just extra bodies in.
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I get his frustration, it does seem like levy probably wants him to quit so he doesn't have to cough up compensation.
 
Brian Fantana said:
I opened that thinking I can’t really be bothered to listen to him again but I am glad I did. Obvious from the words he’s frustrated and feeling like he’s not getting the support from above. He’s changed his tune on getting players in too. Gone from desperate to not bringing just extra bodies in.
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I can't listen to it. Brentford, Liverpool, Villa. What will happen?
 
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