Yeah WTF
Why are those 2 so special that they can’t be fit after all this time.
Their wages aren’t paid by the fans as well?
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Yeah WTF
Why are those 2 so special that they can’t be fit after all this time.
Their wages aren’t paid by the fans as well?
These 2 managers. Slot probably realised if Salah doesnt need to be running around like a lunatic he'll be fresher to score. So the team around him allow him not to track back.
Son is still having to run and run and run the last 18 months and his performances are nosediving
maybe like Maddison? See through it as they live it every day. Young man still and Liverpool apparently were interested. Wonder what he is thinking now.
You know for a fact that Salah is running less than Son? Or less than he was under Klopp?
Or you just chatting again?
This is off of transfermarkt so hopefully they haven't missed any:
But he had one hamstring injury at Wolfsburg that kept him out for 14 games. At Volendam he had a knee injury that kept him out for 2 games, and a foot injury that kept him out for 17. Other than that the only absences listed are for illness. So that's three injuries that required time off before he came here, versus 5 injuries just with Spurs.
Played 5 games in his season at Wolfsburg. Had to be patient during his first season in Germany, not helped by a hamstring injury but second season he played all but one game. To be honest I think he's one of those players who will get a hammy every season.
Players feeling entitled enough to “see through the manager” is ok with you?
They get to choose which coach they want to play for do they?
if many fans feel they see it I am sure players do. the two mentioned are really good footballers but for different reasons it is not happening for them at the moment. Will see when the inevitable happens.
mate they dont want to be in sprint races every 5 minutes anymore. They came to our club to play football not to be olympic athletes so they dont want to fuck their bodies up any more.
Theyll be back when the manager is eventually sacked (well VDV anyway).
That’s ok with you?
What happened if they did it to a coach that you do rate?
None of which Mr We Dont Stop would allow....
Not the question I’m asking and not the point I’m making.
I want to see this club win. The clubs that I see winning don’t have a culture of the players feeling they can choose which coach they can play for,
Now, I’m not saying I actually see that culture at this club but I do have an issue with people celebrating the idea that player might be quitting on a coach at this club,
in half a season of football we've had a record 9 hamsrtring injuries to nine different players and about 13/14 injuries total.
It is common knowledge that our manager has not listenened to medical advice so much so that he had a conflict with the main medical guy and the guy left his role of 15 or so years.
Numerous players have come back and re-injured themselves.
The intense training and our ridiculous style of play will undoubtedly result in players re injuring themselves so im not surprised theres a reluctancy to come back early. If you cant accept that well thats up to you. I dont like it but i accept why it appears to be happening.
Not the question I'm asking you
youre missing the point.
Its not about coaches i rate or dont rate. Its about the current manager being completley negligent when it comes to the handling of injuries.
I dont have to like something to accept or understand why its happening. These players have a future after Tottenham Hotspur (whether its at another club or after football) so theyre reluctant to rush back when theyve seen the results time and time again.
Youve had your head in the sand the whole time, always arguing none of this had anything to do with Ange despite all the evidence. It was only a matter of time shit like this was going to happen.
Carragher did a good MNF video on how they let Salah cheat a bit on tracking back. Their pressing is far more targeted to certain triggers too. Obviously back in his prime he did a lot more work with Mane and Firmino. It’s more about the control they have in the large majority of matches. They’re very rarely chasing the game or the ball.
Unfortunately yes they do. If they all decide to down tools what can a coach do?
Only if the club listens to them and gives them what they want.
Did they compare that to the tracking back Son does or doesn’t do?
No, but obviously we were pressing more than any other side earlier in the season. I think Son’s struggle’s are more than just purely physical though. Personally I think asking him to stay wide and beat fullbacks has dented his confidence. He just can’t get the same separation he used to. Ideally these days, he’d be best suited to playing off a CF and being more of a poacher I think.