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Furball man said:
Yeah , it was dark purple writing on a black background

It’s pretty impressive really , he manages to make what are dead cert business opportunities & somehow turns them to shit. I think come 2029 , the NFL will be a huge white elephant , no idea what the F1 go karts are doing , the hotel may do well for the Euros 2028 but with Sonny gone & us floating around mid table , we won’t be the pull he seems to think we will be. He’s got all these irons in the fire but he’s neglecting the fucking Fire .

He’s a puzzling little man
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To me he screams "I had success doing things this way. So I will always do things this way."

He's unwilling/too slow/too hesitant to adapt to a ever changing footballing world. He's trying to run the club in a way that he is comfortable with in spite it not working nearly as well as it once did.
 
PointToPatrik said:
To me he screams "I had success doing things this way. So I will always do things this way."

He's unwilling/too slow/too hesitant to adapt to a ever changing footballing world. He's trying to run the club in a way that he is comfortable with in spite it not working nearly as well as it once did.
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Thing is , what he sees as success has absolutely nothing to do with football
 
Furball man said:
Thing is , what he sees as success has absolutely nothing to do with football
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Oh for sure. Or at the very least doesn't align with what we as fans want.

If he has a personal idea of football success it probably is just "play in Europe and finish in the European places". Which ligns up with his business/money first mindset.

Personally that's not success, just the bare minimum for what is an okay season.
 
Its a ideal situation for Poch. The team cannot get lower without being relegated. The only way is up. He walks in like Jesus rising from the dead and takes us to CL again. Further cements himself as a legend of the club.

For Levy, it gives himself breathing space from the fans.

Weve had superstar managers, defensive managers, attacking managers. None have worked. How about old popular managers?
 
PatagoniaPhil said:
Its a ideal situation for Poch. The team cannot get lower without being relegated. The only way is up. He walks in like Jesus rising from the dead and takes us to CL again. Further cements himself as a legend of the club.

For Levy, it gives himself breathing space from the fans.

Weve had superstar managers, defensive managers, attacking managers. None have worked. How about old popular managers?
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Worked for Everton with Moyes.

Main thing that Poch would have going for him is he works best with players with talent but who need to be fixed up. We have loads of them.

No one thought the AVB Sherwood squad of Kane, Verts, Rose, Walker, Dembele, Eriksen was any good. Most thought a lot of it was deadwood to be sold. Not saying lighting strikes twice but his record at every club bar PSG (who where a bunch of galactico) is of improving players.
 
Furball man said:
Yeah , it was dark purple writing on a black background

It’s pretty impressive really , he manages to make what are dead cert business opportunities & somehow turns them to shit. I think come 2029 , the NFL will be a huge white elephant , no idea what the F1 go karts are doing , the hotel may do well for the Euros 2028 but with Sonny gone & us floating around mid table , we won’t be the pull he seems to think we will be. He’s got all these irons in the fire but he’s neglecting the fucking Fire .

He’s a puzzling little man
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Those irons in the fire are actually very smart. They add to our (Spurs) income.

As I said, the biggest problem has been the recruitment/football model. We were once quite innovative (first with a DOF, had analysts like Michael Edwards etc) and had one of the best bang for buck recruitment (up to about 2016/17) but have turned into one of the worst. We rarely turn a profit on any player the last few years, and they certainly aren’t giving us much on pitch value. We have spent huge in transfer fees but low on wages - gathering a bloated squad (a bit less bloated now than it was) of very ordinary footballers.

It’s not about “tightness”, we spent a lot of money the last 5 years, it’s about incompetence and poor strategy from Levy,

It started with dropping the DOF and recruitment strategy for Pochettino around 16/17, and then a whole raft of poor strategic footballing decisions regarding personnel, structure, strategy.

Levy maybe also partly distracted by the stadium build during that time, but that in itself was a huge failure to realise this and set up a structure and oversight on the football side of the business so that he could concentrate on the stadium.

Whilst we have gone backwards, many clubs have gone forwards, adopted smarter strategies and structures. Recruited progressive coaches and better value players. It’s a double whammy.

It’s ironic that just as we become a club that can generate very large sums of money in revenue we also become one of the worst run clubs, whereas up until about 2016 we generated a pittance compared to our arrivals but got more things right than wrong and managed to compete with them.

We seem leaner and slightly meaner and slightly smarter under Lange, more how we used to be, but it looks too little too late, certainly for now.
 
bus-conductor said:
Those irons in the fire are actually very smart. They add to our (Spurs) income.

As I said, the biggest problem has been the recruitment/football model. We were once quite innovative (first with a DOF, had analysts like Michael Edwards etc) and had one of the best bang for buck recruitment (up to about 2016/17) but have turned into one of the worst. We rarely turn a profit on any player the last few years, and they certainly aren’t giving us much on pitch value. We have spent huge in transfer fees but low on wages - gathering a bloated squad (a bit less bloated now than it was) of very ordinary footballers.

It’s not about “tightness”, we spent a lot of money the last 5 years, it’s about incompetence and poor strategy from Levy,

It started with dropping the DOF and recruitment strategy for Pochettino around 16/17, and then a whole raft of poor strategic footballing decisions regarding personnel, structure, strategy.

Levy maybe also partly distracted by the stadium build during that time, but that in itself was a huge failure to realise this and set up a structure and oversight on the football side of the business so that he could concentrate on the stadium.

Whilst we have gone backwards, many clubs have gone forwards, adopted smarter strategies and structures. Recruited progressive coaches and better value players. It’s a double whammy.

It’s ironic that just as we become a club that can generate very large sums of money in revenue we also become one of the worst run clubs, whereas up until about 2016 we generated a pittance compared to our arrivals but got more things right than wrong and managed to compete with them.

We seem leaner and slightly meaner and slightly smarter under Lange, more how we used to be, but it looks too little too late, certainly for now.
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Yeh I think Lange has got caught up in the shitshow that is Levy/Ange/Munn. Our signings under Lange relative to the low wages we allow him to use are quite good, Odobert, Bergvall, Gray are decent and will be very good long term players for us. He has the charisma of a cabbage but the players coming in are ok, much better than Hitchens. His signings at Villa have also proven to be mostly a success.
 
bus-conductor said:
Those irons in the fire are actually very smart. They add to our (Spurs) income.

As I said, the biggest problem has been the recruitment/football model. We were once quite innovative (first with a DOF, had analysts like Michael Edwards etc) and had one of the best bang for buck recruitment (up to about 2016/17) but have turned into one of the worst. We rarely turn a profit on any player the last few years, and they certainly aren’t giving us much on pitch value. We have spent huge in transfer fees but low on wages - gathering a bloated squad (a bit less bloated now than it was) of very ordinary footballers.

It’s not about “tightness”, we spent a lot of money the last 5 years, it’s about incompetence and poor strategy from Levy,

It started with dropping the DOF and recruitment strategy for Pochettino around 16/17, and then a whole raft of poor strategic footballing decisions regarding personnel, structure, strategy.

Levy maybe also partly distracted by the stadium build during that time, but that in itself was a huge failure to realise this and set up a structure and oversight on the football side of the business so that he could concentrate on the stadium.

Whilst we have gone backwards, many clubs have gone forwards, adopted smarter strategies and structures. Recruited progressive coaches and better value players. It’s a double whammy.

It’s ironic that just as we become a club that can generate very large sums of money in revenue we also become one of the worst run clubs, whereas up until about 2016 we generated a pittance compared to our arrivals but got more things right than wrong and managed to compete with them.

We seem leaner and slightly meaner and slightly smarter under Lange, more how we used to be, but it looks too little too late, certainly for now.
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It is about tightness. Spending on transfer fees is on a par with the other big clubs but we a miles behind those rivals with wages and there is no excuse. It is tightness and nothing else.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
For those of you still hung up about 'naming rights', how many times do you think 'Tottenham Hotspur' and 'Tottenham Hotspur Stadium' have been mentioned in the mainstream media and on social media in the last week or so, and especially tonight?

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12,000 views in 7 mins...


View: https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1916199593186070679?t=YOsSUYxmZOtUW9YNU9JvaA&s=19
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And? Monetise that for me? I work in finance so struggle to see the ROI on branding etc. happy to be schooled and I’m sure there is an argument but do the mentions mean more people buy memberships? Or it creates a higher sale price for Levy when he finally sells
 
Teach said:
And? Monetise that for me? I work in finance so struggle to see the ROI on branding etc. happy to be schooled and I’m sure there is an argument but do the mentions mean more people buy memberships?
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Putting aside the boring 'I work in....' shite we always hear on various platforms...

You ever heard of brand building?
Teach said:
Or it creates a higher sale price for Levy when he finally sells
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Yes, pretty much.

Edit: A question for you. If mentioning the stadium and club isn't worth fuck all, then why do global companies pay millions for have their names on the sides of stadia and arenas around the world?
 
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