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Match Tottenham Hotspur vs Crystal Palace Sunday 11th May 2.15pm

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Spence is shite btw, was wrong to change my mind on him. Five minutes of good form and has his head in the clouds.

Get rid.
Think that is harsh. When he was playing well he showed enough ability to show us what he can do. Has all the attributes to be a quality FB speed, skill and energy.
Like many say we need to judge a lot of players under a proper inspirational manager / coach and one who actually sets the team up properly. I’m sure he wasn’t the only one who was shite.
Added to all this just look at how he has been treated this season. He plays in pre season and does well. Then we look to sell him assume Ange was happy with that but the other club didn’t stump up. Having done well pre season he gets overlooked left out of Europa squad for 3/4 goal keepers. He doesn’t even start in caraboa v Coventry. But then comes on and saves Ange basically. What was his reward he’s hardly seen for 4 months bar a good 2nd half performance v manure away. He was overlooked so many games for anyone else to play either LB or RB. He then gets his chance v soton and immediately does a great turn and pass and we score. Then generally plays well until Europa knockout starts and he is dropped. Soon as destiny was back. He knows he is being used cannon fodde for PL games Ange doesn’t give a shit about. I reckon some of that has impacted his performance. Plus the team around him has 8 changes with players who have never played together much. Also
Has Davies next to him. Enuff said!
 
Agree...
Let's play "what would you rather...?"

Going out of the EL on Thursday, but winning today, or a EL Final to look forward to on Wednesday week, and forget today and Friday??

I'm very firmly in the former camp.

All today does, is prove our SQUAD isn't good enough to hold their own in more than ONE competition each season...

So we choose one each August, and sack off the rest...

Ange is a Cup manager.... I reckon he's gone either way Sunday week!
That mentality and thinking will see us relegated. Why until recently we could still be competitive in the league and cups. Now it’s not possible having spent best part of £400M in two years under Ange.
 
Do you not think that if we were ever in danger of relegation Ange would play the strongest 11 and play like our last 2 Europa matches and get points and we would not be playing a Europa final. No one doubts we have had a dreadful season in the league but we were never at risk of relegation.
If we played our strongest XI against Palace, every chance we’d still have lost.
 
Today meant absolutely nothing. Season has been about the Europa since January. We would take staying up in 17th on goal difference for another crack at a European trophy. We have finished 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6ty in the Prem and it's meant Jack shit. I want a glory glory night over any league finish. The Premier league bores the shit out of all of us if we are honest
Only bcos we are in the Europa final. What if we had been knocked out what you say then if we carried as we are in the league. Nothing to suggest otherwise that results would have been much better.
 
Stating the obvious here but oh how I wish we had signed Eze. Instead we bought Odobert :levywtf:
Yes but many here like players like Wilson, turbo and tel. I bet all their wages plus transfer fees would have paid for eze. Yet you get some on here who keep saying good signing, makes sense, there’s a player in there somewhere and bs justification. How about just buying player where we don’t need to look or hope if there is a player in there!
 
Mourinho touched on this topic back in his Chelsea days.

This is the premier league. I'm not here to develop players. I'm not here to teach them to be better at football. At this level, they should be the finished product. My job is to get them ready to play, once they are on the pitch, it is their job to play, I can't help.


If players still can't control a ball or read a game, they shouldn't be anywhere near a premier league squad.
Same should go for amateur managers like Posteclueless don't you think?
 
Just finished watching that shit show of a performance , absolutely appalling , embarrassing doesn't start to describe it . To be so totally dominated at home by CP is a low I can't believe we have reached .
And for him to say that if we don't understand his narrative as to why we are in this position then there is nothing he can do is just plain arrogance .
Yet again he has shown his total lack of understanding of the supporters .
When we win the Europa cup he can pack his bags .
I have no respect left for a manager that has such indifference to the league position .
 
Think that is harsh. When he was playing well he showed enough ability to show us what he can do. Has all the attributes to be a quality FB speed, skill and energy.
Like many say we need to judge a lot of players under a proper inspirational manager / coach and one who actually sets the team up properly. I’m sure he wasn’t the only one who was shite.
Added to all this just look at how he has been treated this season. He plays in pre season and does well. Then we look to sell him assume Ange was happy with that but the other club didn’t stump up. Having done well pre season he gets overlooked left out of Europa squad for 3/4 goal keepers. He doesn’t even start in caraboa v Coventry. But then comes on and saves Ange basically. What was his reward he’s hardly seen for 4 months bar a good 2nd half performance v manure away. He was overlooked so many games for anyone else to play either LB or RB. He then gets his chance v soton and immediately does a great turn and pass and we score. Then generally plays well until Europa knockout starts and he is dropped. Soon as destiny was back. He knows he is being used cannon fodde for PL games Ange doesn’t give a shit about. I reckon some of that has impacted his performance. Plus the team around him has 8 changes with players who have never played together much. Also
Has Davies next to him. Enuff said!
I agree with you.

Honestly, I've reserved judgment on our players- I don't know if it's how the manager uses them, the coaching or the players themselves...hell it could even be partly due to a shit medical staff as well...
 
Just finished watching that shit show of a performance , absolutely appalling , embarrassing doesn't start to describe it . To be so totally dominated at home by CP is a low I can't believe we have reached .
And for him to say that if we don't understand his narrative as to why we are in this position then there is nothing he can do is just plain arrogance .
Yet again he has shown his total lack of understanding of the supporters .
When we win the Europa cup he can pack his bags .
I have no respect left for a manager that has such indifference to the league position .
A low? we lost to Leicester man...THEY GOT RELEGATED...
 
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