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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
So harry7 if Ange is good enough to take over at City, that must mean the Brighton manager should be the next Real boss?

Well, the Burley manager who got relegated just won the Bundesliga, so anything is possible.

Brighton weren't competing across 4 competitions. No Europe. They got knocked out of the efl cup early, but did make it to the QF of FA.

It's rather interesting, because guess who's medical team Spurs poached in the summer - Yep, Brighton's!!!!
 
Fair enough. But end of the day, I think the results & table don't lie. We're a very poor team, full of gutless sissies, managed by the biggest fraud in the PL, all working for a gangster property developer parading as a Spurs-loving football chairman.

Finishing 5th last season was a fluke due in large parts to that famous 10-game stretch. That Europa League run to the final is so overblown it's not even funny anymore.

How some can still defend that shite is unreal. Not talking about you btw.

We didn't get 5th last season because of a fluke. We did very well to deal with the loss of Kane, and then suffered injuries to key players. We had to play Royal/Davies at CB FFS, and had no fit striker for much of the season.

The club keeps leaving the squad woefully short of experienced players. Holjberg was an excellent experienced player to bring on late in games to organise the team - and for whatever reason he left for nothing, to be replaced by 2 X 18 years with zero experience at this level.

I don't disagree that this season has been a major fuck up across the board. Recruitment, coaching, medical, players, but the blaim doesn't lay with a single person - it's a combination of all of those things.

Can the existing staff learn from this and improve? Or do we need to throw everything away and start again? Changing 1 part of the jigsaw achieves nothing new.
 
As I very clearly said - there have been so many chances to sack him and we haven’t done it.

Strikes me that if you have months of utterly shite performances to consider and don’t use them a reason to sack someone, winning or losing a European cup final isn’t more of a motivation to do so.

I don’t think they could get anyone in during that time as their targets were concentrating on their current clubs & they knew Mason would not have pleased anyone . As time went on the possibility of reaching a final convinced them to stick with Ange

It’s your typical ENIC balls up
 
So remember the season Leicester finished 17th and then won the league the next season , maybe that was the plan all along for Ange! :ange-arms:

They finished 14th!!

Don’t change history to suit your own Ange Man Crush agenda!!

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Ange's biggest mistake was stubborn complacency. Throughout our persistent injury crisis he continued to double down on, "I'll do it my way", rather than battening down the hatches, making us hard to score against and building slowly from there, as & when possible. It's why we're currently 17th.
His cavalier, gung-ho, swashbuckling approach has failed in the league, but he stubbornly refused to adapt until it was way too late (and to be honest, it's still not working). By & large it has worked against weaker European teams, on a one-off basis, but it won't work against Utd on Wednesday.

Stubbornness has cost him his job. Fingers crossed it doesn't cost us a trophy.
 
Ange's biggest mistake was stubborn complacency. Throughout our persistent injury crisis he continued to double down on, "I'll do it my way", rather than battening down the hatches, making us hard to score against and building slowly from there, as & when possible. It's why we're currently 17th.
His cavalier, gung-ho, swashbuckling approach has failed in the league, but he stubbornly refused to adapt until it was way too late (and to be honest, it's still not working). By & large it has worked against weaker European teams, on a one-off basis, but it won't work against Utd on Wednesday.

Stubbornness has cost him his job. Fingers crossed it doesn't cost us a trophy.

I fully agree.

He was asked on multiple times in the pressers whether he will change.

His reply was: "I've been successful and it's got me to where I am, so NO I'm not changing!"

I wish someone pressed him and said: "At the highest levels of the game, its fact that your results are poor".

In Europe he was poor with Celtic. At the World Cup, he failed to win a single point, with a-6 GD, where his compatriot Graham Arnold got 6 points with a weaker squad and was a one-on-one with the Argie's keeper from taking Messi's Argentina to extra time.

So that is the reality: his was way of playing does not succeed at the highest levels. It's that simple.
 
I fully agree.

He was asked on multiple times in the pressers whether he will change.

His reply was: "I've been successful and it's got me to where I am, so NO I'm not changing!"

I wish someone pressed him and said: "At the highest levels of the game, its fact that your results are poor".

In Europe he was poor with Celtic. At the World Cup, he failed to win a single point, with a-6 GD, where his compatriot Graham Arnold got 6 points with a weaker squad and was a one-on-one with the Argie's keeper from taking Messi's Argentina to extra time.

So that is the reality: his was way of playing does not succeed at the highest levels. It's that simple.
What makes it worse is that Ange isn't stupid. You can tell he knows what's going/gone wrong. This makes his arrogant complacency even more unforgivable.
 
Wednesday is big for Ange.
Lose and he gets a P45 on the final whistle, win and he gets a new contract and a statue.
That may be true, but it is a poor way to make a decision on a manager. Either the team believes in Postecoglou and is committed to his program or it isn't. One game at the end of the season against a poor opponent shouldn't represent a mandate for or against his staying.
 
Marc Guehi. He should be our number one target above Eze even. He has a Ledley like calm with out the world level ability. He's perfect player to walk VDV to truly elite. Whatever he wants buy him.makd him captain.
I do like Guehi and I'd take him in a heartbeat, same re Eze and Mateta...especially if we had Glasner as boss.

Mentally they're a zillion lightyears ahead of Ange, Romero, Maddison and Richarlison/Brennan.
 
Well, the Burley manager who got relegated just won the Bundesliga, so anything is possible.
You really are comparing Vincent Kompany who had Burnley to Ange who's got Spurs? The former lost 24 PL games with one of the tiniest budgets in the league...maybe even the smallest. The latter's at 21 losses despite being the 9th richest club in the world and having spent something like 350 mil since being appointed.

Kompany walked the Bundesliga...yeah yeah yeah Bayern and all that. Give that same team to your Ozzie clown, he doesn't finish on the podium and they get pummeled in the CL league phase. The great Belgian has forgotten more about football than the Blob will ever know.

Brighton weren't competing across 4 competitions. No Europe. They got knocked out of the efl cup early, but did make it to the QF of FA.
We haven't competed in 4 comps either, really...we gave up on the league months ago, bent over as soon as we faced a decent team in the FA Cup (after nearly getting knocked out by supergiants Tamworth), did well to reach the semis of the useless Cacabooboo Cup (after that Great Coventry Escape) where we gave up vs Liverpool faster than the French vs ze germanz in WWII. Don't even talk to me about the European equivalent to the FA Vase.

It's rather interesting, because guess who's medical team Spurs poached in the summer - Yep, Brighton's!!!!
Sorry I forgot we'd have won it all under Ange were it not for hiring this guy as our chief physician

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