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Harry Vaginola said:
sure, sure you got me. but this ange drama is unlike anything i've ever seen and it started with a vocal and spikey section of the support that decided to draw an line in the sand with this manager and defend it tooth and nail. but hey, i guess you guys won. enjoy
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They haven’t ‘won’ shit. We will keep him on now but when he doesn’t have a sub tier competition to cling on to next season and decent prem level teams continue to shit on us, he will end up sacked anyway.

These wankers will just go through the same process all over again and pretend it’s some surprise. Boring as fuck.
 
scotspurgav said:
Fuck off, after years of malaise of their own it’s only in the last year or two they’ve started to improve again.
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...while Spurs declined. So fuck off yourself.
I am being objective and not getting carried away by a EL win. Yes, I am happy Spurs won and enjoy the moment but that win should not cloud the future vision of the club.
But if you think this win has put Spurs among the elite clubs in Europe, feel free to believe so.
 
Boltonspur said:
Can’t agree with that.
Ask any player whether they would prefer to win Europa or finish runners up in CL.
It’s all about the silverware.
And not being the bridesmaid.
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So why do all the big clubs then aim for the CL and not the EL?
Winning to the EL is far easier than winning the CL...so, according to your logic, the bigger teams should then opt to play in the EL instead of the CL :cool:
I rather aim high and fail than aim low and succeed.
PS! But that does not mean I am not appreciating the EL win yesterday!
 
Deuterz said:
Yeah mate of course they are, that’s why players are drawn to Villareal, Sevilla and Frankfurt. All those top players they have, everyone wants to be kings of the Europa.
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Whats your end game supporting Spurs? To see us totally dominate football and win the lot? Not sure we'll ever get there.

Its been 17 years. I was starting to think I'd never see us win a trophy again! We have to enjoy these moments
 
Richard Arlison said:

View: https://x.com/wertottenhamtv/status/1925565543152603542?s=46&t=fbqxNuG9CT4qTaiJx8mBjg

We will be singing this song forever like the Dele song

Better off just accepting that and getting over it as soon as you can.

No chance Levy sees and hears these things and sacks him.
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Oh he will. When we’re shit again in the league next season and the good vibes have worn out. It’ll just be another season scrapped instead of bothering with the facts.

No europa league for him to cling on to next season, so we’re at where we’re at.
 
Shadydan said:
Agreed let's just arrange each song accordingly and never partake in any banter whatsoever because it embarasses the section of our chronically online fanbase who have never stepped outside the walls of the internet.
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and this is a great example of why you're toxic and disingenuous. it starts as a conversation about sports and then you're taking personal shots and making shit up. same as it ever was
 
Don Pedro said:
Whats your end game supporting Spurs? To see us totally dominate football and win the lot? Not sure we'll ever get there.

Its been 17 years. I was starting to think I'd never see us win a trophy again! We have to enjoy these moments
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I did enjoy the moment. It doesn’t make me like Ange or think he’s a good coach doing a good job. I take it for what it was, a moment.

It’s really that simple. Some people on here want to pretend they’re better fans because they’re now all in on Ange.
 
Billy Bob mate said:
But back then the European Cup didn't have 167* teams in it, which is why the UEFA Cup was 'hard to win'.

There are 'easy' games/draws in the Champions League too.

If winning the Europa League is so easy now, why isn't everyone doing it?

* Slight exaggeration to emphasise a point.
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However easy it is to win the EL...there can still only be 1 winner :cool:
As you mentioned, before only 1 team from each European country qualified for the European Cup (CL) back then, so the UEFA cup often had more in-form team competing.
Now all the 4-5 best teams from each top-league compete in the CL so there are far less top teams in the EL.
 
FightingIllini said:
Among other reasons this argument is stupid, winning the EL qualifies a team for the next season's CL, whereas losing the CL final does not.
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Yeah fucking obviously mate. It’s also true that the prize money for reaching a CL final dwarfs winning a EL to a hilarious degree.

What do you think of that? Which is objectively harder by the way, and think seriously before you answer.
 
He’ll be here next season that seems likely now. What I will say is I saw a bit more humble Ange post win. It does feel like a weight has been lifted at the club. His tactics were spot on last night. Thats how big clubs win trophies. Scrappy. Never gave up. The Tottenham of past would have put on a great performance and still have managed to lose somehow.

With that being said, if he is to stay, he needs to learn from his mistakes. Stop being dogmatic with the “angeball” approach that clearly doesn't work in the PL. If he had shown that sort of humbleness and willingness to learn for the whole season it wouldnt have turned so many people off.

The results have to improve quickly next season. I want a real set up and discipline in our game not just shallow philosophies.

However maybe Anges arrogance and cockiness is what this club needs.

It was a bad season. He won a trophy. We’re in CL. Make some smart decisions in the transfer window and start implementing some proper tactics and gameplay and lets see where we are at in December. He’s earned that. But he has to drop the bullshit show off angeball crap and actually care about winning points rather than his own dogmatic views.
 
Distaste for scouse said:
Yeah I'm sure Son much preferred the feeling at the end of the CL watching the scousers raise the trophy and inspecting his second place medal than last night...

Mate.....come on
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As I've said before:
I rather aim high and run the risk of failure/not winning than aim low and increase the risk of succeeding.
So, tell me then: do you prefer Spurs to play in the CL next season or play in the EL with a much bigger chance of winning that competition?
 
Deuterz said:
I did enjoy the moment. It doesn’t make me like Ange or think he’s a good coach doing a good job. I take it for what it was, a moment.

It’s really that simple. Some people on here want to pretend they’re better fans because they’re now all in on Ange.
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I'm not bothered what happens to Ange. I don't mind if we sack him or stick with him. I've no faith in him turning our league form around next season and making us consistent. But at the same time, I wouldn't be upset if we gave him next season as a free pass after last night. He clearly has the players behind him and we'd have momentum going into next season with Ange.
 
Harry Vaginola said:
sure, sure you got me. but this ange drama is unlike anything i've ever seen and it started with a vocal and spikey section of the support that decided to draw an line in the sand with this manager and defend it tooth and nail. but hey, i guess you guys won. enjoy
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Thought it was Spurs who won but hey ho.

And I have no issue with people wanting Ange out before AND after this result. In fact I respect it. But if you'"re trying to convince me that harry7 or sudoku are somehow more abusive or vile than the likes of Daveyboyhitlernunbers and his ilk you are either lying or deluded.

There is a vanishingly small amount of Ange Inners on this site as anyone remotely reasonable was driven away by relentless abuse. Pretending you're a victim is, I'm afraid, rather pathetic.
 
Harry Vaginola said:
you really love the strawman don't you? you've been chirping this line for weeks. no one wanted us to lose and the fact that you have to exaggerate to make your point should tell you a lot about what you seem to believe.

i'm going to stick to my pledge to not insult anyone but just as it's been since we hired ange, his supporters are the most toxic, disingenuous, foul group i've ever encountered outside of politics. i wish i could say i'm surprised you all ran here today to shit on your fellow supporters but sadly i'm not.
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Voicing my opinion on a football forum. Shocking development I agree. 99 percent of my posts have been about celebrating my team. What was that about straw man?
 
Pathfinder said:
I said "any" player and not just the Spurs players. You really believe top players are attracted to the EL? If so, feel free to believe so.
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I believe they're attracted to teams that win trophies.

I believe they're attracted to teams playing in the CL.

As we've ticked both boxes, I believe we'll attract top players.

You honestly think that "any" player who watched our team lifting that trophy, and the raw emotions they showed when that final whistle went, would be thinking "nah, can't be bothered with that?"

If so, feel free to believe so.
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Harry Vaginola said:
you really love the strawman don't you? you've been chirping this line for weeks. no one wanted us to lose and the fact that you have to exaggerate to make your point should tell you a lot about what you seem to believe.

i'm going to stick to my pledge to not insult anyone but just as it's been since we hired ange, his supporters are the most toxic, disingenuous, foul group i've ever encountered outside of politics. i wish i could say i'm surprised you all ran here today to shit on your fellow supporters but sadly i'm not.
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You were in a bad mood all day yesterday and now I see your in a bad mood again today.

How the fuck have you done this to yourself? lol
 
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