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Management Ange Postecoglou

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What will change is that we will go into season 3 with a highly motivated squad who have tasted success and have gone on the record as wanting more of it! The small fact that they want to go on with a manager they trust does not seem to resonate much with some Ange haters in here!

I can see the rationale behind sacking Ange. The league form was sackable and it was his decision to have a younger recruitment profile. Or at least he’s claimed that responsibility. He also struggled massively with 2 competitions last year and we lost every game after the EL. Being in the CL should make that harder.

But people massively underestimate the value of this squad being winners now and their self belief in what they can achieve with this manager needs to be given a chance to get some completion. Either it will fail and he’s gone by December and the whole thing has no what ifs… or it absolutely kicks on much better than anyone could have expected.

We’ve started both Ange seasons with strong performance levels, with the right recruitment this summer, there’s a non-zero chance that we are able to maintain those levels this time.
 
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What will change is that we will go into season 3 with a highly motivated squad who have tasted success and have gone on the record as wanting more of it! The small fact that they want to go on with a manager they trust does not seem to resonate much with some Ange haters in here!
I think the term Ange haters is just too extreme for use in a lot of cases.

I like the bloke (when he’s not surly post loss), and I get very emotional watching the Europa League win and I think it’s an unfortunate situation if he leaves after such a momentous occasion, but I’m also objective enough to realise he’s not equipped to compete at this level.

If we get a tactically astute manager in I don’t see why this winning mentality going forward should evaporate! If anything I think it could galvanise the squad once the new manager earns their respect.

That highly motivated feeling you refer to can quickly dissipate once we start turning in poor performances irrespective of who the manager is. Based on last season I think it’s worth rolling the dice on a replacement rather than sit on our hands and hope.
 
both their CVs are terrible compared to Ange. iraola has won one pre season cup in cyprus then got sacked by his team in cyprus because he didnt win a game for two months. frank has won nothing in denmark or england.

Looking at our managers history, of the last seventeen appointed under Levy, from unknowns to the best of the best none have covered the club in glory.

The EL win under Ange has covered over the worse top flight season in ninety years, and if we looked at CV's only Conte would be back on Monday. Without Kulu, Madders, and Bergvall we still won the final summing up the quality teams we played in the competition. We scoff at the Conference League but the EL is little stronger.

We won well done, now like United or City or Scouse would have done, we move on.

Iraola for me, Glasner shouldn't be ruled out, but if i an paying 2,300 quid next season for a season ticket then I don't expect to witness half of those games ending in defeat.

Ange has to win twelve more games (on average) to make a top four place next season. He has little ability to do that.

Levy needs to pull the trigger next week.
 
Also, we finished 5th last year which would have got us CL if the other British clubs weren't so shit in Europe. If we had CL last summer the transfer window would have been very different. Ododbert and Gray may well have been Eze and Gallagher types but because we had EL, they decided to go younger IMO.

We finished seventeenth this season and that would have got us relegated in any of the previous eleven seasons.

Someone in here tell me how this fraud is going to improve on that, plus play in the CL?

No other Cup, double or treble winning side have done that and finished seventeenth.

Is Aussie Joe sacrificing the PL next season again to concentrate on getting out of the group stages of the CL?
 
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Tell you what, shall we just hand back the Europa League trophy (seeing as we're SO undeserving!) in exchange for what people deem an acceptable number of league points, they still probably wouldn't have got us into the Top 5...

Our aim this season was to WIN A TROPHY ✓
...and somehow qualify for the Champions League ✓✓

We did BOTH... with ONE TROPHY!!

yes, the League was piss poor as a result, but I wouldn't swap last Wednesday-Sunday for anything
... Least of all an 'acceptable' 6th place finish and NO trophy, which would be had us pretty much back to where we started in August!
Tell you what can I have my travel and admission money refunded along with the other 40k plus who were not told we'd written off the entire campaign to be ready for the might of Bodo fucking Gimp. The lowering of standards is shocking. We have to fire the coach just to remove the credulous from all conversations. It's staggering the shit he has sane people spouting.
 
We finished seventeenth this season and that would have got us relegated in any of the previous eleven seasons.

Someone in here tell me hw this fraud is going to improve on that, plus play in the CL?

No other Cup, double or treble winning side have done that and finished seventeenth.

Is Aussie Joe sacrificing the PL next season again to concentrate on getting out of the group stages of the CL?
I guess if you were a qualified football manager you could answer your own inane questions couldn't you?
 
Tell you what can I have my travel and admission money refunded along with the other 40k plus who were not told we'd written off the entire campaig to be ready for Bodo fucking Gimp. The lowering of standards is shocking. We have to fire the coach just to remove the credulous from all conversations. It's staggering the shit he has sane people spouting.
Been a fan for long?
 
We finished seventeenth this season and that would have got us relegated in any of the previous eleven seasons.

Someone in here tell me hw this fraud is going to improve on that, plus play in the CL?

No other Cup, double or treble winning side have done that and finished seventeenth.

Is Aussie Joe sacrificing the PL next season again to concentrate on getting out of the group stages of the CL?

17th doesn’t get you relegated in any PL season . 5th got you CL football this season.

The most likely outcome based on the 2 seasons so far if Ange stays, is that we start strong, then pick up injuries when European football starts. Those injuries mess with our form and then priorities come into play. Having won a trophy now, I’d expect Ange to prioritize the PL and we end up getting knocked out of the LC and CL early.

If somehow we strengthen the squad and bring players who enable us to not suffer from injuries so bad and also the likes of VDV and Romero start building that robustness that VVD and Salah have, then it could easily be very different
 
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